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.375 H&H for africa (question added)
13 December 2008, 10:00
BaxterB.375 H&H for africa (question added)
You'd regret ever putting a rubber bumper on that rifle and gettign rid of that awesome skeleton plate. Thats a beauty from top to bottom. _Baxter
13 December 2008, 11:24
jetdrvrDepends on how many rounds you put through it before you go. I shot mine a lot prior to my hunt. 800 rounds or so. I'd reccommend a sissy pad for range use with that checkering. It'll etch your shoulder after repeated firings.
13 December 2008, 15:21
Oday450quote:
Originally posted by jetdrvr:
Depends on how many rounds you put through it before you go. I shot mine a lot prior to my hunt. 800 rounds or so. I'd reccommend a sissy pad for range use with that checkering. It'll etch your shoulder after repeated firings.
I'd suggest a quality shooting vest, slip on,or lace on pad rather than ruining the classic features if a recoil pad is needed.
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13 December 2008, 19:45
retreeverGreat rifle...I love the looks of her...
Mike
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13 December 2008, 19:58
matt uGood looking Safari rifle.
13 December 2008, 21:05
BrettAKSCIFrostbit
Ok, so it's pretty and most of us would agree it's adequate, but is it reliable? I'm willing to lend my services in field testing it for the next 20 years to test its reliability. A selfless action I know, but that's the kind of guy I am! And the best part is I'm moving to Kodiak in a couple months, so I'll swing by and pick it up at no cost to you!!!! This offer is only for a limited time. Call now!!!
Immaculate rifle! I'm drooling!
Brett
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13 December 2008, 23:09
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:
Frostbit
Ok, so it's pretty and most of us would agree it's adequate, but is it reliable? I'm willing to lend my services in field testing it for the next 20 years to test its reliability. A selfless action I know, but that's the kind of guy I am! And the best part is I'm moving to Kodiak in a couple months, so I'll swing by and pick it up at no cost to you!!!! This offer is only for a limited time. Call now!!!
Immaculate rifle! I'm drooling!
Brett
Probably expect me to pick you up at the airport too eh?

28 December 2008, 06:41
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:
Frostbit
I'm moving to Kodiak in a couple months
Brett
Looks like my rifle beat you there. A previous owner killed a Brown Bear on Kodiak with it.
I was trying to find out information from a gunshop owner that had the rifle from 1977 - 1984. I had learned that is when the custom stock was added.
I walked in to the shop with the gun in a soft case (without scope mounted). I placed the case on the counter and opened it, removed the rifle and handed it to the shop owner.
He smiled and related how he had killed a Brown Bear on Kodiak with the rifle. I learned he was after the gun when it had the Plain Jane Winchester stock and was owned by a collector that later sold it to the gentleman that eventually traded it to the shop owner in 1977.
Part of the trade included a Super Cub and the only way the shop owner would trade the airplane was if this gun was part of the deal.
After the trade he sent it to Martin Hagn to be restocked with a custom stock built from a Turkish Walnut blank.
It’s been fun finding the history of the gun. Now that I know it has already seen field use in Kodiak I feel even more strongly about taking it to Africa and using this beauty for its intended purpose.
28 December 2008, 09:04
Idaho Sharpshooterthat is one very nice rifle. Although the 375H&H works well, I would prefer my 416 Rigby or the 450 Dakota I took to Zim for Buffalo. That's just me being insecure, the old H&H has no flies.
Rich
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28 December 2008, 19:37
chuck375Leave that buttplate as it is! You can always wear a pad for long sessions at the bench/range. You won't need a pad with a 375 H&H shooting at game.
Georgeous gun, congrats
Chuck
Regards,
Chuck
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29 December 2008, 08:26
FrostbitFear not!! I have no plans on changing this rifle in any way. I believe from what I learned this weekend the stock was most likely done by Martin Hagn and I certainly wouldn't alter that fine work.
30 December 2008, 03:40
jetdrvrquote:
Originally posted by Oday450:
quote:
Originally posted by jetdrvr:
Depends on how many rounds you put through it before you go. I shot mine a lot prior to my hunt. 800 rounds or so. I'd reccommend a sissy pad for range use with that checkering. It'll etch your shoulder after repeated firings.
I'd suggest a quality shooting vest, slip on,or lace on pad rather than ruining the classic features if a recoil pad is needed.
Absolutely. Sissy pad=slip-on shoulder pad. I use a shooting vest, but I hunt with it, also. good for all kinds of stuff...hard candy for me and the boys, flashlight, pocket camera, spare ammo, chewing gum, etc.
02 March 2009, 07:21
FrostbitOK, I'm looking to upgrade the scope on this rifle. It has QD bases and rings on it but I'm not sure of the manufacturer. There are no markings.
What I'm wondering is whether a Swarovski Z6 1.7-10x42 will mate up. I realize I would need 30mm rings. That is why I'm asking if anyone recognizes these rings and bases as to brand.
Then, with the 42mm bell on the Swarovski Z6 1.7-10x42 will I need to be going with higher rings?
02 March 2009, 07:24
FrostbitHere's the base.
02 March 2009, 19:42
Tim CarneyFB,
Those look like older Warne QD rings and bases. The more modern ones are built so you can tighter them up with the lever, then ease the lever out a bit and square it up so it's not hanging out in space. Not sure if you can just buy the new, spring resetting lever or not...
IMHO, see no reason to change what is a more than adequate scope for this rifle, but then it's what I use on my own .375H&H

Regards, Tim
02 March 2009, 21:33
MARK H. YOUNGJim,
That is a beautiful rifle in a most useable caliber. You will feel the recoil with that skeleton butt plate so I might suggest you get a slip on pad. If you can tolerate the longer LOP I'd just shoot and hunt with the slip on in place. It will make a huge difference in perceived recoil and protect the butt.
As for the scope the 1.5x5 is OK and the preferred scope for the 375 and larger calibers. Personally I feel the 1.75x6 or 2.5x8 are better for all around use. The Swarovski scopes are excellent and I own a couple but the extra expense is not necessary. If you are thinking that in the future you may want to use the rifle for cats you might want to consider an illuminated reticle if you do buy a new scope.
Mark
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My 2 ents worth is to go with the Z6 in 1x6. Lower mounting, plenty good in low light, illuminated reticle an option, perfect magnification for a 375.
I find the large objective bells a pita carying the rifle over the shoulder.
If cats aren't going to be on the agenda, there is nothing wrong with the scope on the rifle now. And it a good choice, imo, if cats aren't on the agenda.
JPK

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03 March 2009, 02:08
FrostbitI appreciate the opinions. You guys may well have saved me some jingle.
I have a 2-7 VXII on my .338 and have shot Caribou past 200 yards with no problem. I just thought the 5 power might be light for longer shots in Namibia.
No cats in the immediate future and definitely not on this trip.
03 March 2009, 02:17
dogcatI took Saeed's advice and put a Leupold 2.5 x 8 on my .375. So far so good.
03 March 2009, 02:33
Code4Frostbit, have you put any rounds through it yet ? If you hunt hard, expect a few scratches on that bad-boy. Beautiful rifle.
03 March 2009, 02:45
adrookI have a Kahles 2-7x on my .375, I like a little more magnification than a 1.5-5x. 1.7-10x would be great, I have a new Swaro 3-10x42 that I am thinking of putting on a .375.
Cheers,
Andy
03 March 2009, 03:56
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by Code4:
Frostbit, have you put any rounds through it yet ? If you hunt hard, expect a few scratches on that bad-boy. Beautiful rifle.
Heading to Mexico next week for a little R&R and sunshine.
I'll be hitting the range when I get back. I had major shoulder surgery last July and I'm only now getting back full strength and function.
My plan is to build up to the .375 by shooting my 7mm and .338 with it's brake first. If all goes well I'll post the results of how the .375 likes Federal 300 gr. Barnes TSX.
It will also give me a chance to decide if the 5 power is adequate out to and past 200 yards for Namibia.
03 March 2009, 04:46
BwannaWhat a gorgeous gun. Great to be able to do it justice by taking it over.
Frostbit,
Bringing a cheap rifle to Africa is like farting in Church.
Cheers,
Ard.
07 March 2009, 01:37
Walter ProciukI would have a synthetic stock for that rifle for serious outings. As beautiful as that rifle is, a fiberglass stock makes sense.
07 March 2009, 02:05
FrostbitI can understand the opinions expressed but this is mine.
I have dibbled in collectible cars, mostly Mopars. I have a relatively rare and potentially valuable A12 M-code Roadrunner at present. There are folks who keep these in a garage merely to look at them. Some will trailer them to shows and push them on and of enclosed trailers never leaving their side the whole time until they are locked back in the trailer. More power to them. That has never worked for me. I drive mine during the 5 months that is possible in Alaska.
I feel no differently about this rifle. I will do my best to not “abuse” it but I will use it!!
Besides, remember, it was given to me for that reason.
Thanks for the opinions though.
07 March 2009, 04:00
MARK H. YOUNGJim,
40 years ago I would have gladly given a left or right testicle for that car. I lusted after one but never had one. Anyway I agree on using the 375. Do use the rifle as is. Every ding, scratch and gouge will have meaning for you and become a trophy of your safari.
Mark
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Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Jim,
40 years ago I would have gladly given a left or right testicle for that car. I lusted after one but never had one. Anyway I agree on using the 375. Do use the rifle as is. Every ding, scratch and gouge will have meaning for you and become a trophy of your safari.
Mark
Yup!! Came to Alaska with a virgin Remington 700 BDL with a pretty stock. Didn't stay pretty long. I remember falling in a frozen stream hiking into Cresent Lake for spring Black Bear. The rifle bounced on some rocks and got a nice little battle scar on the stock. I found it only hurt for a little while.

I'm looking forward to seeing this beauty sitting across the Buff's horns.
07 March 2009, 09:17
jetdrvrI have the identical scope on my .375. Taken game with it out to 300 yds. It's great for everything but low light.
07 March 2009, 09:54
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by jetdrvr:
I have the identical scope on my .375. Taken game with it out to 300 yds. It's great for everything but low light.
Thanks!!
I appreciate everyone's opinion on this. I'll let you know how the rifle shoots after I get back from some very much needed R&R in Mexico.
08 September 2009, 04:09
FrostbitIf anyone is interested in how the rifle shoots I posted a short report
HERE08 September 2009, 04:26
buckeyeshootergreat looking rifle, enjoy it!
08 September 2009, 06:37
Texas Blue DevilNice rifle....that wood gives me wood!!
Go Duke!!
08 September 2009, 06:45
Pepper_TickThat rifle is gorgeous, .375 is my fav cartridge.
08 September 2009, 14:03
375 fanaticquote:
Originally posted by Bob in TX:
That is a work of art!! It deserves to go to Africa! Great friend...........
Good Hunting,
Bob
+1 Or stay in Africa

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08 September 2009, 21:08
Singleshot03As others have said - excellent rifle, great caliber -awsome piece of wood.
Jim
09 September 2009, 05:38
BigFiveJackNo recoil pad? How's it feel?
Jack
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09 September 2009, 08:28
FrostbitI used a Past pad and it was fine. Shot it a couple of times without. Wouldn't want a frequent dose. Probably gonna get a thin gel slip on a friend had gotten from Cabela and raves about.
09 September 2009, 08:41
SliderNice ride!!! Luv Mopars!!! That rifle is superb!!!
09 September 2009, 10:49
Harry Selbyquote:
Originally posted by Frostbit:
Been planning this trip for over a year now. Anyone can search my profile and past posts and figure out that I started by looking at RSA and moved on to plains game in Namibia. Problem is I read far too much on this forum and now I’ve gotten a Buffalo bug. I’ve read many reports where the addiction starts and people return looking for Buff and other DG. I have decided to not wait for a return and include Buffalo in the 2010 trip. I’m still planning the location, etc.
But the reason I am starting this post is I wanted to share images of a beautiful partner I will be taking with me. Of course I will be taking my wife but this is not a picture of her. This is a series of shots of the .375 I have just acquired to comply with the minimum caliber requirement for Buffalo.
This gun was just passed on to me by a very generous man who felt a hunter should not travel on safari without a fitting firearm.
This is a Hoffman Arms barrel fitted to a Winchester M-70 action from 1938. The stock I have learned had been added later. The generous individual I made mention of owned this gun since 1984 (give or take by his memory). He has hunted Africa many times yet this gun has never made the trip.
It will in 2010!!
I did not know how to do it justice in just one image so please excuse the multiple close ups.
In my opinion you have not only an exceptionally beautiful rifle there but an entirely practical one as well. In my fifty five years of professional hunting my respect for the .375 H&H cartridge has increased each time I saw it used. In my opinion the greatest cartridge ever developed. I would prefer to see a visiting hunter arrive for his safari with such a rifle than with a double of any caliber. Good luck on your hunt.
Harry Selby.