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Read riflepermits.com, website, and they stated that you could ignore the barrel serial number block on the app, IF the barrel was attached solidly to the receiver. My son will be taking a takedown single shot to RSA for the plains game hunt. Does this mean that he has to have the serial number engraved on the barrel, to match the one on the receiver? Currently there is no serial # on the barrel.

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I am sure the "official" answer will be yes you need the SN on the barrel. BUT....I doubt you will have any problem bringin the rifle in the way it currently is...to be safe keep it assembled in the gun case. Last year I took a custom rifle that has no caliber marking on the barrel. I typed "7x57" on white paper and taped it to the barrel.....I had no trouble getting through. They are not very savy in that office!


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I would sugest to be on the safe side and avoid having trouble at customs to engrave the serial number on the barrel.

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Not sure what kind of take down you have, but on my Encore barrels I engraved the s/n's from the receiever onto the lug on the bottom of the barrel. I used a Dremel engraver that I bought at Home Depot for $20. You have to take the barrel off the receiver to see the S/N, which I would do if they forced the issue.
 
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Mad Dog,

Ask riflepermits.com As AR members we would only be guessing. You want the right info. on those forms.

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Use Air 2000. I always did my own clearing which was prior to the new regs for RSA. With all the crap now I think it is money well spent.
 
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Not sure what kind of take down you have, but on my Encore barrels I engraved the s/n's from the receiever onto the lug on the bottom of the barrel. I used a Dremel engraver that I bought at Home Depot for $20. You have to take the barrel off the receiver to see the S/N, which I would do if they forced the issue.


Very good idea!!


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I really think the SAP is aquainted with U.S.A. firearms by now. As long as you keep the barrel attached to the receiver, I doubt there will ever be an issue. I hunted with an Encore and a Contender and no problem.
 
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We went through with an 870 receiver and two unattached, un-serial numbered barrels for it last summer with no problems.

Same thing with a disassembled 12 gauge over/under.

As was said before, they aren't too saavy.

Just put "not applicable" on the form.


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Sir, that's a long way to fly, and be stopped at the destination, because the lack of a ten minute job with a electric engraver! You can do the number under the fore-end wood so it doesn't show when assembled! Roll Eyes


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Sir, that's a long way to fly, and be stopped at the destination, because the lack of a ten minute job with a electric engraver!


A serial number put on a barrel with an engraver means absolutely nothing in the official sense though it might distract and fool the ignorant. They would have to be dumb enough to actually think a serial number put on with an engraver was real.

If you leave the barrel attached to the gun, it will accomplish the same thing for those not in the know. Since the majority of the safari business is from the U.S.A., they really must know by now (excluding the ignorant) that serial numbers of guns from the U.S.A. are on the receivers and that the serial number on guns from much of the rest of the world is on the barrels by now.

In addition, do you think they really care about all the guns from Europe that have no serial number on the receiver?
 
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According to my SA PH, rifles registered to SA owners used to have the serial number only on the barrel, the receivers didn't require any. It was legal to sell a receiver to anyone without a government permit or application. Now, the law requires both the receiver and the barrel to have the serial number on it. I don't think this applies to those requesting a temporary firearms import permit (foreign hunters). Would it hurt to put the receiver's serial number on the barrel? Certainly not but, then again I don't think it's required of foreigners.


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They would have to be dumb enough to actually think a serial number put on with an engraver was real.


We are taking about customs officials in Africa.
 
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A serial number put on a barrel with an engraver means absolutely nothing in the official sense though it might distract and fool the ignorant. They would have to be dumb enough to actually think a serial number put on with an engraver was real.

If you leave the barrel attached to the gun, it will accomplish the same thing for those not in the know. Since the majority of the safari business is from the U.S.A., they really must know by now (excluding the ignorant) that serial numbers of guns from the U.S.A. are on the receivers and that the serial number on guns from much of the rest of the world is on the barrels by now.

In addition, do you think they really care about all the guns from Europe that have no serial number on the receiver?


If you want to risk an expensive trip for nothing, then by all means don't follow this advice. BTW, I hunted SA in 04 with a Contender handgun, and they did check the barrel to see if the serial # matched the frame. I had it put onto the barrel under the forend, and they made me remove the forend to show them. VERY cheap insurance to avoid a huge f'up with SAPS.


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