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Originally posted by RIP:
Hey Will,
The 470 NE and 470 Mbogo have nearly identical case capacities.

I have gotten the 470 Mbogo up to 2685 fps with 500 grainers with no signs of pressure problems. 2700 fps should be no problem.

You ought to be able to do the same thing with the 470 NE as long as the brass will handle about 60,000 psi, and surely it will ... in a Ruger No.1.

2300 fps with 500 grainers, 'tis nuthin' in a Ruger No.1.

I want no part of this in a double rifle however. I want my Merkel to last a good while, so try not to exceed 2150 fps with the 500 grainers it likes so well. If mine cross at 50 meters, so what, it is still good to 100 meters, and that is far enough. 1" group at 50, 2" group at 100 meters, good enough for 4-shot composites.

My 45/404 Dakota (RIPoff of the 450 Vincent Short) will be on a Ruger M77 Mk II stainless with a synthetic stock, just to be contrary as possible to the stuffy old nostalgics around here. The metal could be olive drab, gray or black. No rust blue for me, thank you.

If Saeed would only offer 450 Vincent brass for sale here, might get a movement going regarding "dream elephant rifle."