Appalling photos emerge of Canberra developer posing with trophy kill

28 February 2018, 16:41

None of the photos were in questionable taste with the exception of the baboon in the front seat, but maybe he was tweaking the very people who were offended by it with that photo. As hunters, we have been under attack by media snowflakes for so long that many of us have developed a defiant attitude in the face of their BS. We are a more independent lot by nature, and it is understandable if he decided to post such a picture just to stir the pot.

28 February 2018, 18:36

Kathi

http://www.canberratimes.com.a...20180227-h0wr7h.html

Hellenic vice president resigns after posing with trophy kills.

28 February 2018, 20:02

Bud Meadows

Good thing he didn’t post a picture of Buzz in his infamous “Mankini”

28 February 2018, 20:12

Charlie64

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Doesn't say much for the Canberra Times if that is all they have to write about !

Everything is in the public space nowadays and any pictures and reports out there are potential anti bait / material.

I am happy to write and post trophy and other pictures but wouldn't take anything like the baboon picture and place it to the net.

On the other hand maybe we all should do that and to hell with them!

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28 February 2018, 20:47

BuffHunter63

Kathi,

No offense intended, but are you affiliated with PETA or any other animal rights group?

Some of your discussions seem rather anti-hunting.

BH63

28 February 2018, 22:12

BaxterB

quote:
Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
Kathi,

No offense intended, but are you affiliated with PETA or any other animal rights group?

Some of your discussions seem rather anti-hunting.

BH63

You need to do some research. Kathi is and has been a fountain of information here on AR. She brings stories that most of us would otherwise miss entirely. Sharing this story isn’t anti-hunting, it’s merely showing us what is happening to hunters around the world.

Kathi is legit.

28 February 2018, 22:33

larryshores

Exactly.

Not to mention that it isn't her writing. She posts articles. Good, bad or indifferent.

28 February 2018, 23:56

Bwana Bunduki

quote:
Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
Kathi,

No offense intended, but are you affiliated with PETA or any other animal rights group?

Some of your discussions seem rather anti-hunting.

BH63

Kathi reposts articles. Try to pay closer attention before you go off on someone.

Jeff

01 March 2018, 04:39

MJines

A little context on the articles. It is my understanding that:

1. Not surprisingly there is more to the story than meets the eye. Nick is a real estate developer. Nick and his family have been involved in a real estate development that has attracted a vocal and active opposition group. The article is no accident and has more to do with business and attempting to discredit Nick and his real estate project than with any legitimate concerns over hunting.

2. The photos used in the article were never posted on Facebook, Instagram or any other similar social media platform . . . although they were posted on AR (through a private Photobucket account). As we all know, AR is monitored by a variety of people not all of whom are hunters and sportsmen. This is reminder to all of us of that fact. Just a reality of the times in which we live.

Whether you agree with the composition of the pictures or disagree, some context is always useful.

01 March 2018, 04:49

Grizzly Adams

Hardly appalling, got to wonder what is repulsive about a baboon in a comical pose,doesn't even look dead. Heck, we have a whole museum dedicated to mounted Richardson's ground squirrels {gophers} in domestic settings.

http://gopherholemuseum.ca/dioramas/

Gotta admit there was some wailing and teeth gnashing when it opened.

Grizz

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Only one war at a time. Abe Again.

01 March 2018, 05:01

scruffy

I whacked a baboon years ago and the young PH took his fancy fedora (or whatever that cool looking hat was?) and after propping the simian up - put the hat on the monk's head.

I remember thinking that I would not put my hat on a baboon's head and then wear it .. Sheesh ...

01 March 2018, 05:36

Texas Blue Devil

quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
quote:
Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
Kathi,

No offense intended, but are you affiliated with PETA or any other animal rights group?

Some of your discussions seem rather anti-hunting.

BH63

You need to do some research. Kathi is and has been a fountain of information here on AR. She brings stories that most of us would otherwise miss entirely. Sharing this story isn’t anti-hunting, it’s merely showing us what is happening to hunters around the world.

Kathi is legit.

01 March 2018, 05:38

Crazyhorseconsulting

quote:
Kathi,

No offense intended, but are you affiliated with PETA or any other animal rights group?

Some of your discussions seem rather anti-hunting.

Any excuse to attack each other is better than none.

01 March 2018, 05:51

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
A little context on the articles. It is my understanding that:

1. Not surprisingly there is more to the story than meets the eye. Nick is a real estate developer. Nick and his family have been involved in a real estate development that has attracted a vocal and active opposition group. The article is no accident and has more to do with business and attempting to discredit Nick and his real estate project than with any legitimate concerns over hunting.

2. The photos used in the article were never posted on Facebook, Instagram or any other similar social media platform . . . although they were posted on AR (through a private Photobucket account). As we all know, AR is monitored by a variety of people not all of whom are hunters and sportsmen. This is reminder to all of us of that fact. Just a reality of the times in which we live.

Whether you agree with the composition of the pictures or disagree, some context is always useful.

Thanks for posting that.

As usual in the media today...most hit jobs have an ulterior motive.

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01 March 2018, 18:24

analog_peninsula

Many on this thread make suggestions that sail perilously close to appeasement. While I agree that circumspection may be in order for those in the public eye, it's important to realize that the only way the antis will be appeased is by a total ban on hunting, a total ban on the use of animal products, such as leather, a ban on all animal product safety testing, a ban on the eating of meat, and, finally, the total confiscation of all firearms in private ownership.

A policy of appeasement will work about as well for us as Neville Chamberlain's policy of appeasement in the 1930s worked on Adolph Hitler.

01 March 2018, 20:17

twoseventy

quote:
Originally posted by Thor Kirchner:
When will people learn not to call a LAND CRUISER a jeep

When I first went to Africa, the ph's and staff called Land Cruisers a Rover. Japies called them baki.

Go figure.

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01 March 2018, 20:39

BaxterB

quote:
Originally posted by analog_peninsula:
Many on this thread make suggestions that sail perilously close to appeasement. While I agree that circumspection may be in order for those in the public eye, it's important to realize that the only way the antis will be appeased is by a total ban on hunting, a total ban on the use of animal products, such as leather, a ban on all animal product safety testing, a ban on the eating of meat, and, finally, the total confiscation of all firearms in private ownership.

A policy of appeasement will work about as well for us as Neville Chamberlain's policy of appeasement in the 1930s worked on Adolph Hitler.

Anti hunters will never be appeased, it’s a waste of time. Non-Hunters with even a skosh of an open mind (a much, much bigger number) can become allies (albeit hesitant) by seeing hunting in its most positive light. That part is up to us.

01 March 2018, 22:22

rxgremlin

Big +1 on that. I will also commend Kathi for her posts. Again she is a hunter and a ally!

01 March 2018, 23:00

Buzz Charlton

As Mike Jines says there is more to meets the eye with this story. We have had the pleasure of Nick hunting with us several times and he is as good a hunter and as ethically minded as any I have met.As others have said the antis will only be appeased when all hunting is closed.

02 March 2018, 00:00

BuffHunter63

quote:
Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
quote:
Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
Kathi,

No offense intended, but are you affiliated with PETA or any other animal rights group?

Some of your discussions seem rather anti-hunting.

BH63

Kathi reposts articles. Try to pay closer attention before you go off on someone.

Jeff

I just asked a question (in a benign way). Didn't "go off" on anyone. You should cool your jets!

BH63

02 March 2018, 00:24

shootaway

quote:
Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
quote:
Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
quote:
Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
Kathi,

No offense intended, but are you affiliated with PETA or any other animal rights group?

Some of your discussions seem rather anti-hunting.

BH63

Kathi reposts articles. Try to pay closer attention before you go off on someone.

Jeff

I just asked a question (in a benign way). Didn't "go off" on anyone. You should cool your jets!

BH63

BH63
Your question is perfectly understandable BH63.It has not been a long time you've been a member here.I might suspect the same thing if I were new and didn't know that Kathy and her husband have been long time African hunters.

05 March 2018, 20:34

BuffHunter63

^
Thanks for the clarification.

BH63

05 March 2018, 20:38

Saeed

Kathi is only reporting what happened, and we should be greatful to her for bringing these stories.

Actually she beats to posting one, as I was about to do so when I saw that she did.

10 March 2018, 05:29

AB109

problem these days with antis and social media that it is published WORLD WIDE and can cause a lot of harm. This happened in Australia and now the whole world knows about it. I blame the social media for this. It is also a shame that these days one has to be so careful who visits your house. i.e. tradesmen etc. One photo and one can be ruined.

10 March 2018, 07:24

shootaway

quote:
Originally posted by AB109:
problem these days with antis and social media that it is published WORLD WIDE and can cause a lot of harm. This happened in Australia and now the whole world knows about it. I blame the social media for this. It is also a shame that these days one has to be so careful who visits your house. i.e. tradesmen etc. One photo and one can be ruined.

We need social media of our own which exposes individuals/businesses who WE think our doing disgusting things.It's called fighting back. Instead we are always analyzing how we got screwed.