Appalling photos emerge of Canberra developer posing with trophy kill

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27 February 2018, 19:33

BaxterB

I’m 100% pro hunting, but I’m also 100% against the ridiculous posing of baboons to make them “act” like a human. It’s a most pathetic form of disrespect in my opinion. It’s simply mocking an animal’s death, and has no place in hunting. But maybe I’m puritanical, dunno...

27 February 2018, 20:00

Thor Kirchner

When will people learn not to call a LAND CRUISER a jeep

27 February 2018, 20:00

shakari

quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
I’m 100% pro hunting, but I’m also 100% against the ridiculous posing of baboons to make them “act” like a human. It’s a most pathetic form of disrespect in my opinion. It’s simply mocking an animal’s death, and has no place in hunting. But maybe I’m puritanical, dunno...

27 February 2018, 20:05

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
I’m 100% pro hunting, but I’m also 100% against the ridiculous posing of baboons to make them “act” like a human. It’s a most pathetic form of disrespect in my opinion. It’s simply mocking an animal’s death, and has no place in hunting. But maybe I’m puritanical, dunno...

I concur as well. Especially in today's environment. That said however...it really was not that big of a deal...and 10 years ago most here (not counting me...but I would not have objected either)...would have gotten a laugh out of it.

27 February 2018, 20:08

fairgame

quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
I’m 100% pro hunting, but I’m also 100% against the ridiculous posing of baboons to make them “act” like a human. It’s a most pathetic form of disrespect in my opinion. It’s simply mocking an animal’s death, and has no place in hunting. But maybe I’m puritanical, dunno...

That is their problem and they now own the animal. I would not personally get involved with what people want to do with their game but note someone will be watching.

27 February 2018, 20:10

Jaco Human

Do what we want the ar's/snowflakes/it's will never change, I do not even try to change their minds. Total waste of energy and time.

27 February 2018, 20:31

samir

I think it’s a great photo.

27 February 2018, 20:45

BuffHunter63

Seem rather common (the photos) to me.

I guess it is all in the "eye of the beholder".

BH63

27 February 2018, 20:47

crbutler

Typical reporting.

Infer that he is hunting for the ivory trade throughout the article then put a weasel worded comment about not stating he is involved in illegal ivory hunting...

And I thought only American journalists were that slimy.

The whole article is aimed at defaming the guy... legally.

27 February 2018, 21:01

Baker458

I'm surprised the Australian branch of Humane Society International didn't make up a name and iconic status for the dead baboon. Find a local to talk about how "Eric The Baboon" brought in thousands of tourists, and would amaze them with his cruiser driving abilities before he was senselessly killed. Easier to destroy a person's life when you make up a name for the animal.

27 February 2018, 21:10

Tim Carney

quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
I’m 100% pro hunting, but I’m also 100% against the ridiculous posing of baboons to make them “act” like a human. It’s a most pathetic form of disrespect in my opinion. It’s simply mocking an animal’s death, and has no place in hunting. But maybe I’m puritanical, dunno...

Well said, and you are not puritanical. We need to resist those all-too-human tendencies to be inappropriately "funny."

Regards, Tim

27 February 2018, 21:27

fairgame

quote:
Originally posted by crbutler:
Typical reporting.

Infer that he is hunting for the ivory trade throughout the article then put a weasel worded comment about not stating he is involved in illegal ivory hunting...

And I thought only American journalists were that slimy.

The whole article is aimed at defaming the guy... legally.

Exactly Sir. What is more outrageous a baboon with sunglasses or the carcass of a dead elephant.

Bit like USA gun law. A gun is a gun is a gun.

27 February 2018, 21:48

BaxterB

quote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
quote:
Originally posted by crbutler:
Typical reporting.

Infer that he is hunting for the ivory trade throughout the article then put a weasel worded comment about not stating he is involved in illegal ivory hunting...

And I thought only American journalists were that slimy.

The whole article is aimed at defaming the guy... legally.

Exactly Sir. What is more outrageous a baboon with sunglasses or the carcass of a dead elephant.

Bit like USA gun law. A gun is a gun is a gun.

The baboon was the lead pic. That’s not an accident. I might posit one act is defensible and one is not. Remember, it’s not the antis that are worth our time and consideration in public perceptions, but non-hunters who are ambivalent - at least for now.

Just saying the baboon trick does little to Convince anyone hunters are anything other than selfish loons reveling in death for fun.

27 February 2018, 22:50

fairgame

quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
quote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
quote:
Originally posted by crbutler:
Typical reporting.

Infer that he is hunting for the ivory trade throughout the article then put a weasel worded comment about not stating he is involved in illegal ivory hunting...

And I thought only American journalists were that slimy.

The whole article is aimed at defaming the guy... legally.

Exactly Sir. What is more outrageous a baboon with sunglasses or the carcass of a dead elephant.

Bit like USA gun law. A gun is a gun is a gun.

The baboon was the lead pic. That’s not an accident. I might posit one act is defensible and one is not. Remember, it’s not the antis that are worth our time and consideration in public perceptions, but non-hunters who are ambivalent - at least for now.

Just saying the baboon trick does little to Convince anyone hunters are anything other than selfish loons reveling in death for fun.

I hear you but blowing a big hole your trophy with you smiling behind holding your big gun still ain't going to cut it with same crowd.

Maybe the future of a safari is a ban on cameras?

27 February 2018, 23:06

BaxterB

quote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
quote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
quote:
Originally posted by crbutler:
Typical reporting.

Infer that he is hunting for the ivory trade throughout the article then put a weasel worded comment about not stating he is involved in illegal ivory hunting...

And I thought only American journalists were that slimy.

The whole article is aimed at defaming the guy... legally.

Exactly Sir. What is more outrageous a baboon with sunglasses or the carcass of a dead elephant.

Bit like USA gun law. A gun is a gun is a gun.

The baboon was the lead pic. That’s not an accident. I might posit one act is defensible and one is not. Remember, it’s not the antis that are worth our time and consideration in public perceptions, but non-hunters who are ambivalent - at least for now.

Just saying the baboon trick does little to Convince anyone hunters are anything other than selfish loons reveling in death for fun.

I hear you but blowing a big hole your trophy with you smiling behind holding your big gun still ain't going to cut it with same crowd.

Maybe the future of a safari is a ban on cameras?

Often times the big wars we have to fight are the result of many small, seemingly independent and inconsequential decisions. I think making wiser small decisions as we go along can help reduce many of the major battles. Think of the impact of Cecil the Lion. A series of small, poor decisions has led to setbacks we will likely never recover from. That was two people involved in killing one lion. What did Donne say, “No man is an island, entire of itself. Each is a piece of the continent, a part of the main.” Hopefully we can realize this before the bell tolls...

28 February 2018, 01:21

fairgame

quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
quote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
quote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
quote:
Originally posted by crbutler:
Typical reporting.

Infer that he is hunting for the ivory trade throughout the article then put a weasel worded comment about not stating he is involved in illegal ivory hunting...

And I thought only American journalists were that slimy.

The whole article is aimed at defaming the guy... legally.

Exactly Sir. What is more outrageous a baboon with sunglasses or the carcass of a dead elephant.

Bit like USA gun law. A gun is a gun is a gun.

The baboon was the lead pic. That’s not an accident. I might posit one act is defensible and one is not. Remember, it’s not the antis that are worth our time and consideration in public perceptions, but non-hunters who are ambivalent - at least for now.

Just saying the baboon trick does little to Convince anyone hunters are anything other than selfish loons reveling in death for fun.

I hear you but blowing a big hole your trophy with you smiling behind holding your big gun still ain't going to cut it with same crowd.

Maybe the future of a safari is a ban on cameras?

Often times the big wars we have to fight are the result of many small, seemingly independent and inconsequential decisions. I think making wiser small decisions as we go along can help reduce many of the major battles. Think of the impact of Cecil the Lion. A series of small, poor decisions has led to setbacks we will likely never recover from. That was two people involved in killing one lion. What did Donne say, “No man is an island, entire of itself. Each is a piece of the continent, a part of the main.” Hopefully we can realize this before the bell tolls...

OK mate you win and I also thought the baboon stuff was quite distasteful.

I have hunted with many and most respect the game and the sport of hunting. For these the bell does not toll.

28 February 2018, 01:26

ozhunter

nice bull

28 February 2018, 01:27

shootaway

Nick has more respect for wild animals than this slut or any of her kind have.

28 February 2018, 01:38

fairgame

quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
Nick has more respect for wild animals than this slut or any of her kind have.

shootaway have you considered poetry? Because that was classic prose.

28 February 2018, 02:21

Michael Robinson

I would not treat any animal I had killed in the way this hunter treated that baboon, much less publish photos of it for viewing by the public. I find it in bad taste.

The lesson (for anyone who didn't already know it) from the publication of such a photo is the savaging that the hunter and hunting in general took in that article.

I have no doubt that the baboon photo spawned the article, which was nothing more than a below-the-belt hit piece.

28 February 2018, 02:43

ozhunter

quote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
The lesson (for anyone who didn't already know it) from the publication of such a photo is the savaging that the hunter and hunting in general took in that article.

I have no doubt that the baboon photo spawned the article, which was nothing more than a below-the-belt hit piece.

you are assuming the photo was placed for public viewing

28 February 2018, 03:09

Michael Robinson

quote:
Originally posted by ozhunter:
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
The lesson (for anyone who didn't already know it) from the publication of such a photo is the savaging that the hunter and hunting in general took in that article.

I have no doubt that the baboon photo spawned the article, which was nothing more than a below-the-belt hit piece.

you are assuming the photo was placed for public viewing

Not assuming. Below is from the article:

"The images appear to have been taken over a number of trips between 2010 and late 2016, and were posted to an online forum where hunters report their kills on the continent, as well as on a public Photobucket account belonging to a "nickha1". This month, they also surfaced on Twitter."

28 February 2018, 03:39

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
Nick has more respect for wild animals than this slut or any of her kind have.

I actually agree with George.

28 February 2018, 03:43

shootaway

quote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
I would not treat any animal I had killed in the way this hunter treated that baboon, much less publish photos of it for viewing by the public. I find it in bad taste.

The lesson (for anyone who didn't already know it) from the publication of such a photo is the savaging that the hunter and hunting in general took in that article.

I have no doubt that the baboon photo spawned the article, which was nothing more than a below-the-belt hit piece.

It is strange that you say this now but never said anything for the past 20 yrs on AR.How many hunt reports have you seen or commented on where there were pictures of baboons in human like poses or disguises? I bet there were quite a few.Don't you think it would have been more appropriate that you had said something then instead of now?

28 February 2018, 03:44

ozhunter

quote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
quote:
Originally posted by ozhunter:
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
The lesson (for anyone who didn't already know it) from the publication of such a photo is the savaging that the hunter and hunting in general took in that article.

I have no doubt that the baboon photo spawned the article, which was nothing more than a below-the-belt hit piece.

you are assuming the photo was placed for public viewing

Not assuming. Below is from the article:

"The images appear to have been taken over a number of trips between 2010 and late 2016, and were posted to an online forum where hunters report their kills on the continent, as well as on a public Photobucket account belonging to a "nickha1". This month, they also surfaced on Twitter."

They were not set for pubic veiwing from my understanding

28 February 2018, 04:38

MARK H. YOUNG

Folks,

The article was crap but the baboon pic was in bad taste and it would have been in bad taste many years ago IMO.

Mark

28 February 2018, 04:58

shootaway

quote:
Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Folks,

The article was crap but the baboon pic was in bad taste and it would have been in bad taste many years ago IMO.

Mark

I don't remember you saying so ever.

28 February 2018, 05:38

fulvio

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
I concur as well. Especially in today's environment. That said however...it really was not that big of a deal...and 10 years ago most here (not counting me...but I would not have objected either)...would have gotten a laugh out of it.

Agreed but times have changed yet a good number of hard-headed folks keep ranting on with comments like "legal", "god-given rights", etc. as a means to validate their actions.

Gone are the "good old days" - be prepared for the tougher times ahead, the outlook of which is rather bleak.

I'm not being pessimistic; just stating facts.

28 February 2018, 05:47

fulvio

quote:
Originally posted by ozhunter:
you are assuming the photo was placed for public viewing

Qupted content:

The images appear to have been taken over a number of trips between 2010 and late 2016, and were posted to an online forum where hunters report their kills on the continent, as well as on a public Photobucket account belonging to a "nickha1".

Can't get more public than that.

Anything you post on FkBook is bound to circulate no matter what restrictions you apply.

28 February 2018, 05:53

fulvio

quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
I would not treat any animal I had killed in the way this hunter treated that baboon, much less publish photos of it for viewing by the public. I find it in bad taste.

The lesson (for anyone who didn't already know it) from the publication of such a photo is the savaging that the hunter and hunting in general took in that article.

I have no doubt that the baboon photo spawned the article, which was nothing more than a below-the-belt hit piece.

It is strange that you say this now but never said anything for the past 20 yrs on AR.How many hunt reports have you seen or commented on where there were pictures of baboons in human like poses or disguises? I bet there were quite a few.Don't you think it would have been more appropriate that you had said something then instead of now?

Those of us who did post comments related to the use of inappropriate photographic material or video clips open to public viewing, were put through the shredder.

We are now paying in full thanks to the "wild bunch".

28 February 2018, 05:56

Texas Blue Devil

quote:
Originally posted by fulvio:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
I concur as well. Especially in today's environment. That said however...it really was not that big of a deal...and 10 years ago most here (not counting me...but I would not have objected either)...would have gotten a laugh out of it.

Agreed but times have changed yet a good number of hard-headed folks keep ranting on with comments like "legal", "god-given rights", etc. as a means to validate their actions.

Gone are the "good old days" - be prepared for the tougher times ahead, the outlook of which is rather bleak.

I'm not being pessimistic; just stating facts.

I agree. Times have changed. Websites like facebook are very, very public.

But honestly, I've never been a fan of photos (or taxidermy work) like the photo of the baboon. To me it is just in poor taste. I wouldn't criticize others, but I'd never do it.

28 February 2018, 06:29

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by Texas Blue Devil:
quote:
Originally posted by fulvio:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
I concur as well. Especially in today's environment. That said however...it really was not that big of a deal...and 10 years ago most here (not counting me...but I would not have objected either)...would have gotten a laugh out of it.

Agreed but times have changed yet a good number of hard-headed folks keep ranting on with comments like "legal", "god-given rights", etc. as a means to validate their actions.

Gone are the "good old days" - be prepared for the tougher times ahead, the outlook of which is rather bleak.

I'm not being pessimistic; just stating facts.

I agree. Times have changed. Websites like facebook are very, very public.

But honestly, I've never been a fan of photos (or taxidermy work) like the photo of the baboon. To me it is just in poor taste. I wouldn't criticize others, but I'd never do it.

Very true.

But, these idiots will always find something to complain about.

It got so bad in Australia that vegetarians are going into restaurants giving customers leaflets telling them to stop killing animals and eating them.