I've posted a very similar topic before but I can't help wondering why a lot of people say the .375 H&H magnum is not a long range cartridge yet they'll claim the .338 Winchester magnum is a long range cartridge. I hear it over and over again. The last time I posted I received some great and informative responses from all of you and I started looking at some of the links you all provided me with ballistics charts included. The .375 has numerous loadings that approximate or beat out the .338 Winchester magnum 225 grain and 250 grain loads. These are 270 grain and 300 grain loads I'm talking about. So you've got heavier bullets with the same or better trajectories. Are these folks talking about the 300 grain round nosed solids when they say the .375 H&H is not a long range round or is it that the ballistics charts are all wrong? I promise I will not bring this subject up again but I would like to hear your responses again as well.
Thanks again for your knowledge and experience.
jfm.

jfm, I am a firm believer in the 375 and especially out to 300 yds. My rifle is very accurate for what you would expect for this caliber. I would not necessarily call 300yds long range and I would not take the rifle much past that unless no choice. Mine will shoot easily 3/4 at 100. JMHO.

Larry

I consider 300 yards to be long range and without question the .375 H&H is all of that.

Perhaps one reason why the .375 has not enjoyed much success as a long range number - despite it's ability to perform well in that role - is that high magnification scopes often have short eye relief. My .375 wears a Burris 2.75X scout scope, yet when loaded with 260 gr Accubonds or 300 gr TSX's, it does quite well out to a quarter mile. One could only imagine what the round would be capable of if chambered in a long barreled 80 pound rifle, with suitable optics, and loaded with VLD bullets. However this remains the relm of the die hard ballistic experimenter.

In it's purest form the .375 is a hunting rifle, and as such it is among the best of choices. Hunting requires that shots be taken from all sorts of positions, which increases felt recoil. Some can shoot a light .375 prone, but for many it is the upper level of their tolerance. Therefore many would only go to their .375 when the game is large and the range is close. This is unfortunate, as it only exploits one aspect of this great cartridge.

I'd say any game animal within 350 yds is in trouble if he is being shot at by a man who knows his 375 H&H rifle, regardless of the bullet coming out of the muzzle! I use nothing but 300 gr bullets in my 375 H&H rifles, the only difference being soft, or solid, and I've killed several Muledeer out to 300/350 yds, with one shot fired! You just need to know your rifle!

I have fun here in Colorado by taking my .375 out after elk. Two years ago I killed two of my own (had two legal licenses) and two more that were wounded by other hunters. My second on was from 307yds (laser measured by others). In my estimation it definitely is a long range cartridge with the right bullet.

I have never shot past about 150 yds with my .375 , but I remember Wendell Reich saying he took a buff at 300 yds or so with his .450 or .375 H&H. I believe Saeed has taken a long shot or two with his guns as well based on the videos on this website.

From my way of thinking, nearly every modern cartridge is a long range (300 yds) gun if in the hands of a practiced rifleman.

I decided to make a long range (400M) rifle about 2 years ago, and I had quite a bit of trouble settling on the caliber. After much anguish, I settled on the .375, and have a M-70 being tuned up for it now. Very close ballistically to a .30-'06 or .308 (which both have a pretty good reputation for 300-500M shooting) with a whole lot more power. My only question now is whether to ream it out for .375 Weatherby. Gonna try the H&H first, see if that's enough for my limited long range needs.

The 416 Rem ain't too shabby if you shoot the 330 gr GS Custom HV. Starts out at 2700 fps, 270 yard point blank range for a six-inch vital zone (+/-3").

It was a great combination on plains game up through eland.

I hear the new Barnes TSX is just about as good ballistically. I've just grown allergic to Barnes copper over the years. (Cleaning rod elbow.)

If you want the ultimate heavy long-range hitter, I think the 378 Wby gets the nod. The 416 Chey-Tac and 416 Barret are good, but the 375 bullet selection is unbeatable.

Earlier this year, at a bachelor party no less, a friend had brought an oxygen tank to shoot. (medical type tank) It was a small tank about 5" or 6" diameter and maybe 24" tall. He has a custom .308 made by Speedy Gonzales and was very confident in his ability.

We set it at 350 yards.

I pulled out my terribly rusted and abused .375 topped with a 1x-4x leupold and said, "Let me have a poke at it with my .375 before you shoot."

He laughed at me and said I could have all the tries I wanted with that gun.

He wasn't laughing long.

Dang, those things are fun to shoot.

No, I am not 12 years old, I just act like it sometimes.

In the hunting films, Saeed does a skeet like snap shot, hitting a quarting away Dukier, running, it looks like at full speed, at 275 yards, with a 375 H&H.

Could be the shooter's ability comes through with this caliber, due to recoil???

S

416 weatherby is a excellant long range heavy cartridge.......

.375,265gnGscHV2700fps@300yds:2364v-3290e-89momentum-33 TKO
.416,330gnGscHV2700fps@300yds:2300v-3900e-109momentum-45 TKO

+1.5"100yds,-9.0"300yds (approx.for both)

By comparison, a 270FailSafe/2700fps@300yds:2050v-2500e- ? momentum-29 TKO.
+2.2"100yd,-9.0"300yd(approx.)

Woodjack, what is mo? By the way, thanks again to all of those that replied.
jfm.

Wendell.



Perry

I had my .338 rebarreled to .375 H & H. I didn't like the recoil of the .338.

The longest, and this was an exception, shot I've made on game with the .375 is a laser ranged 520 yards with the 270 grain FailSafe on an elk. One shot through the lungs/top of heart.

A great round, but now I'm preaching to the choir!

Jfm,

sorry "mo" is momentum, I could not recall the proper abbreviation.
I alterd my post and also added TKO (TaylorKnockOut) values.

Also as DonG stated you might want to consider the 378 weathrby, GScustom also make a 300gnHV specifically for that size of case /velocity range. although I would prefer the .375/338Lapau over the Weath. I just like cases with more traditional tapers ie: 7x57,338Lapau,50bmg. If you look, all three appear very similar in proportion.

I don't have too many problems with the 375 being a long range gun. Recoils MUCH less than my Sako TRG42 (338LM) or my 338 RUM AI. Not nearly as flat, but able to get it done. Drop with the 300gr Sierra Game King at 2500fps is very similar to a 308 with 168gr SMK's at 2650-within inches at 6-800 yds.