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A few long days of waiting, then we get together with old friends. Adds so much to the safari, enjoying time in the wild bush with friends one has shared many campfires with. I was asked what the recovered bullets look like . Here are some. | ||
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Good luck and I will look forward to the hunt reports DRSS Member | |||
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Be safe. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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All those shiny tipped possibilities.... I hope you have a good trip Saeed. | |||
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Good luck and I look forward to seeing your great photos. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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What part of Tanzania this year? | |||
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Hope you have a Good, Safe trip. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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We are going to be hunting with Alan Vincent, as we have been doing the past few years. Our bullets are Molly coated with an industrial spray. We found it much better - and a lot cheaper than OUTER's Molly spray. The OUTERS comes in small spray cans, and if left for any length of time, nothing comes out because it looses its pressure. The bullets get this look because we coat them while being stuck nose down in large kitchen chopping boards, which we drill the required size holes in. Bullets are turned from 12mm copper rod, which I understand is manufactured for electrical earthing connections. It is 99.99% copper as tested. We buy them in 4 meter lengths, and we cut them here to 60 cm, which the right length to feed in our CNC lathe. Each is measure for diameter and weight. This way we can eliminate those are with internal faults. In the past, we got some rods that had air pockets inside them, and this is the only way could sort these out. I must admit that happened a few years ago, and was not repeated in the new copper rods we have used. Walter and Maktoum, both were hunting with us last year, are joining us again this year. | |||
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Saeed, what is the benefit of coating the bullets? DRSS | |||
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Basically it eliminates fouling in the barrel. I ran quite a comprehensive test years ago on Molly v non-Molly coated bullets. There was a very slight increase in the velocity with the same charge, accuracy was slightly better, but the anti fouling qualities were great. It is really for the reduction of barrel fouling that I use it on all the bullets we use here. Whether they are own Walterhogs or factory made bullets. We coat all the ones we use. | |||
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Have a great hunt Saeed. Glad to hear Walter is coming along for comic relief Jesus saves, but Moses invests | |||
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Your preparation and expertise related here are extensive (and impressive) When you essentially lathe your own here out of solid Copper..do you do anything to influence expansion before Molly coating? Or do they simply perform as solids where you want minimal deterioration? | |||
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We can control the expansion by the diameter and depth of the hollow point. Our current bullets are made with a 2.5mm hollow point, to a depth of 12mm. These will penetrate a buffalo on broadside shots most of the times, so we have to be careful shooting in herds. If the buffalo is quartering, the bullet remains inside. Almost all bullets loose the front part - very similar performance to the original Barnes X bullets. We have tested bullets with a 2mm hollow point, and 9mm deep. Is hot a buffalo bull walking away. The bullet entered next to the tail, went along the whole body, and was lodged in neck closer to the ear! | |||
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Nothing wrong there. Excepting 13.5 calibers and 270 grains more for bullet diameter and weight! I just use the standard Barnes .509 caliber 570grain TSX bullets. I haven't had fouling problems with them, but I do like the notion of moly coating for purposes of increased velocity and reduced fouling in general. Can you share the source of your moly coating? Or, can you let us know if the standard stuff worked fine, apart from its short shelf life? Thanks, and best of luck! Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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That should be enough penetration for anyone's dreams. How many bullets do you make up before loading? How many rounds do you take along and how many are usually left over? Thanks, have a great trip and be safe. George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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I make my bullets in batches - several hundred at a time - in each caliber being made. I have made all calibers from .224 to .700. The nice thing about CNC turned bullets is that we can tailor the bullet to the specific rifle. We have had rifles that have under sized barrels, and shoot much better with smaller bullets than standard We take a total of 140 rounds for 4 hunters hunters. Many are left at the end of the safari, and we hold a shooting contest for our camp staff, and they shoot whatever is left - which can be quite a lot sometimes, if we do not have someone playing around with 12 shots on a buffalo It provides lots of fun for everyone, and every contestant gets a cash prize - it is in decreasing amount according to their rank in the shooting. This shooting contest at the end of the safari has become a tradition now, and everyone looks forward to it. | |||
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Good luck, Saeed and Co! I really enjoyed and appreciated the film of your adventure from last year. | |||
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You are very welcome my friend, glad you enjoyed it Ben. | |||
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Have fun saeed. Too much preparation - I just got myself a blaser and everything breaks down and functions perfectly. You should try it. Have fun and I am looking forward to the pictures. Mile | |||
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I have some here, and do shoot them in the range. But hunt with one? Not on your life my friend! Too complicated for my taste. And I am old fashioned, and prefer a normal bolt action rifle. I can operate it without thinking, which comes in handy when one is at my age and the part between the ears too set in its own old ways. | |||
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Mike, I have used 3 types of Molly coating, and frankly, I cannot see much difference between them in performance. I used the original powdered Molly one put in a tumbler, then coat them with carnoba wax to stop them making your hands filthy. I have used the OUTER's coating spray, and a very similar product we get from England for industrial coating of Molly. End results are all the same. | |||
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Safe travels and cheers to excellent hunting and time spent with friends. "In the worship of security we fling ourselves beneath the wheels of routine, and before we know it our lives are gone"--Sterling Hayden-- David Tenney US Operations Manager Trophy Game Safaris Southern Africa Tino and Amanda Erasmus www.tgsafari.co.za | |||
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Have fun and Happy Hunting!!! | |||
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Saeed: What is Walter doing to prepare for the upcoming trip? | |||
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Good hunting Bwana, I have been watching and reading about your groups antics since the late 1990's. I found a 2004 or 2006 dvd the other day and watched it, and laughed as hard as I did on last years. Thanks again to your group and have a blessed safari! Seth | |||
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Wishing the group all the best. Enjoy! | |||
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Walter is in a bit of fix with his professional hunter. Apparently they have been communicating on Whatsapp, and the Pete has asked Walter to make sure he is rested and fit, as his message says "I am going to work your ass off walking up the hills, down the valleys, in the most remote part of the concession". Walter, as you can imagine, is not very impressed. He is going around the chemists trying to get a big supply of what he calls "pills that aid in fast digestion. I will add them to his diet. He will be spending all his time trying to find a tree to hide behind to do relief himself instead of trying to kill me!" As you can see, other hunters and their PHs tend to talk about making a hunt as enjoyable as possible. Walter has affected Pete so much now even he is starting to think like Walter! | |||
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Have a great trip and I look forward to the reports and video! Best, Amir | |||
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I think you can shoot through 2 buffalo end to end with that ammo ... Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear | |||
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Be safe and have fun! | |||
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I'm hoping you aren't going to put a tracking chip on his person so the drone follows him while he does this. I'm just fearful that's going to make the last few hours of the videos this year...... | |||
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Have a great safari and I look forward to the report and videos Anton | |||
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How do you apply the carnoba wax to the bullets after they have been molycoated? | |||
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Saeed, Please do have another great safari. I very much enjoy your pix of everything you encounter. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Saeed: That is DAMN funny! | |||
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I get a lot of satisfaction loading my own ammo, rifle, handgun and shotgun. Lathe turning your own bullets is a giant step above. Have a great safari. NRA Patron member | |||
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Saeed, Have a great and safe trip. I look forward to reading about it! | |||
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It is a process dreamt up by someone, which really did not work that well. They have powdered carnoba wax which you add to the bullets in a tumbler. It is supposed to cover the Molly so that it does not get onto your hands. It never worked, and using the spray Molly eliminates this. | |||
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It gets worse, when you are hunting with a rifle you have built yourself, for a cartridge you have developed yourself. | |||
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Thanks for the clarification. Off to molycoat some 375 bullets. | |||
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