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I had the same problem a few yrs ago flying from Jburg to Port E. I guess it depends which WOG you have to deal with. Oh yea I had a small container and he ask what was in it and I opened it and said "It is a temporary tooth" he quickly said "PUT IT AWAY".
 
Posts: 5338 | Location: Bedford, Pa. USA | Registered: 23 February 2002Reply With Quote
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Just wanted to tell people here at AR what I experienced on the airport in Paris, after my hunt in Namibia.
They wouldn`t let me keep my riflescope in my handluggage. So I had to check it in as normal luggage.
Why? I tried to tell them that it was not dangerous at all.. But since it had some relations to firearms, they wouldn`t allow it..
The airports in Oslo, Jo`Burg, Frankfurt and Windhoek had no problems what so ever..
Is it normal? Anyone with similar experiences..?
 
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To be fair to the French (who deserve no fairness at all), TSA, right here is about as stupid. When I went to see a fellow AR member in Texas last spring, I had a cigar lighter with me. The lady checking stuff went nuts saying that no lighters were allowed. Her boss said no "torch" lighters allowed. While they were debating this, I drained gas from the lighter and asked them to try to light it. Of course they failed, but since it was a "torch" lighter, I couldn't take it aboard. I guess they figured I had already hidden propane or something on board and was going to re-fill it and use it as a weapon....



But nothing matches the idiot who wouldn't let Joe Foss on a plane with his Congressional Medal of Honor in his pocket. Foss was 89 years old (I believe), as a Marine fighter pilot he shot down 26 or so Japanese aircraft, was a former Governor, past-president of the NRA, former Commissioner of the American Football League and even was on his way to address the graduating class at the Naval Academy.



The security idiot said that the shape of the medal (a star, I guess)??? was such that Foss could use it as a weapon. We live in a country that can be screwed up, too.... but I ain't thinking about traveling through France.



For your information here is the citation for the "suspected terrorist" with the CMOH.. You can get additional information from www.cmohs.com

It is an amazing site to roam through. And, btw, the security/TSA guy didn't even know what a Medal of Honor was.



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FOSS, JOSEPH JACOB



Rank and organization: Captain, U.S. Marine Corps Reserve, Marine Fighting Squadron 121, 1st Marine Aircraft Wing. Place and date: Over Guadalcanal, 9 October to 19 November 1942, 15 and 23 January 1943. Entered service at: South Dakota. Born: 17 April 1 915, Sioux Falls, S. Dak. Citation: For outstanding heroism and courage above and beyond the call of duty as executive officer of Marine Fighting Squadron 121, 1st Marine Aircraft Wing, at Guadalcanal. Engaging in almost daily combat with the enemy from 9 October to 19 November 1942, Capt. Foss personally shot down 23 Japanese planes and damaged others so severely that their destruction was extremely probable. In addition, during this period, he successfully led a large number of escort missions, skillfully covering reconnaissance, bombing, and photographic planes as well as surface craft. On 15 January 1943, he added 3 more enemy planes to his already brilliant successes for a record of aerial combat achievement unsurpassed in this war. Boldly searching out an approaching enemy force on 25 January, Capt. Foss led his 8 F-4F Marine planes and 4 Army P-38's into action and, undaunted by tremendously superior numbers, intercepted and struck with such force that 4 Japanese fighters were shot down and the bombers were turned back without releasing a single bomb. His remarkable flying skill, inspiring leadership, and indomitable fighting spirit were distinctive factors in the defense of strategic American positions on Guadalcanal.










I guess I'm hijacking a thread, but to those of you who care, the F4F was a much inferior airplane to the Zero. The Japanese could out climb, out turn and out accellerate the F4F. Not until the F6F came along, did parity exist (although the F4F could take more hits than the Zero). Damn, I wish I could bend an airplane around like Major Joe!
 
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Judge,
I had the same thing happen to me on the way back from Wyoming through Denver. No torch lighters. I had to ship my lighter back to myself .

I guess they fear our using the lighter to burn our way through the cockpit doors.

George
 
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I usually pass quickly through the issue of Newsweek, but this week one story caught my eye.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5781907/site/newsweek/

I am 62 years old and have been subjected to the search more times than I would like to remember. If anyone feels safer because the cretins at TSA checkpoints in our airports are scanning us old farts, you need a reality check.
 
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Last year while passing thru security for the second time, I heard these two little (politly speaking) old ladies commenting how much safer they felt with the new security. I wanted to say you aren't any safer with these Gov't dreges on security than you ever were but then thought I do want to get on the plane.
 
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Judge: I can relate. been out of the cockpit for a year now and MAN I MISS IT! jorge
 
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Happened to me in Frankfurt, but after some negotiations I could take the Zeiss along in my handluggage.

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We all--I'm surmising that all here have a bit of common sense and intelligence--realize that all this "security" crap is a farce that accomplishes absolutely nothing beyond harrassment, it's just a warm fuzzy for the sheep. At any rate, I have been advised many times that if at all possible, always avoid France and especially de Gaulle airport, espescially if hunting and/or firearms are involved.
 
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When we came to the USA in March, my wife had to discard her nail clippers when we changed flights at Frankfurt. Even the normally paranoid Indian security at Chennai let the nail clippers through but Germanic efficiency demanded that we discard them, I guess...
 
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I had a United agent in Frankfurt swear that a U.S. Air Marshall boarding there was allowed to carry his gun but they took away his nail clippers.

And I personally watched a young American carry a 18" square box through security that was not inspected or XRayed because it was "diplomatic material", (he had a diplomatic passport) but he had to take his shoes off and empty his pockets. Usually the Germans are smarter than us Americans, but not always...
 
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Ask boha how he felt after the French sawed his Tuffpak in two! They couldn�t exam the contents as he wasn�t present to open the case...the luggage was two day�s late and boha was already home but that didn�t seem to be an issue.

Mark Twain proposed sending comanche Indians to France as missionaries in order to civilize the frogs...
 
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I am willing to make a substantial bet that I can get hold of one or even two very deadly weapons on almost any international flight with complete ease. And I'm not talking about cigarette lighters and nail clippers.

I won't say how and what here on a public forum but it is very easy.

Security is about public confidence in flying and only a deterent.
 
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