Rich Elliott is in Ethiopia so I cannot ask him about this rumor.

I received a telephone call this morning that the Ethiopian Government is raising the license fee on Mt. Nyala from $5,000 to $15,000 this coming season.

Does anyone know if this is true????? If this is true, it looks like we will not be going to Ethiopia.

The outfitter François Dannaud is due to Ethiopia any day, I'll ask him immediately.

jbderunz,

Thank you, Sir.

Kathi i heard the same last week from a very reliable source, apparently it is not yet official but the announcement is imminent, the daily rates are also going to be increased, all in it is going to be an outrageously expensive safari undertaken by the super wealthy and or the specialist collector

Scott450,

Thanks for the information. How much more expensive can they make it???

15 days 1x1 $31,500
observer $3,000
concession fees $200 per day per hunter,
$100 per day per observer
15% vat on daily rates
Government scout fees $40 per day
firearm import fee $200 per firearm

License fee (not trophy fee) must be purchased before hunt
Mt. Nyala $5,000
Menelik's bushbuck $2,000

Air charters-if needed

It is already an expensive hunt and now the possibility of another $10,000.

What I read is that after founding the new EWCA - Ethiopien Wildlife Conservation Authority a Mountain Nyala costs now 15 000 US$ instead of 5 000. all other prices were doubled. There should also be another rip off : 100 US$ daily for conservation fee and so on... The author of this article didn`t make clear if the ministers still have to sign it or if it`s already law.
Hope everybody who booked get the old price.
I´m concerned about the outfitters/ guides and this hunting paradise in general because this place, the people and wildlife are unique.

Kathi,
If this is true I'm in your same situation, It was just borderline over the top before. If it's any more I'm out. Just my deposit for mine will get me another leopard hunt with all the trimmings.
Chipolopolo

Its always been a dream of mine to go hunt in ethiopia.Not only for the mountain nyala but also to see the country but mainly for the Nyala.Just for the mountain Nyala and a bushbuck i was looking at 60 000 dollars plus some change.I can probably go on a ele 2 buff and a leopard safari in Zim for about 35000 dollars.Which is what iam doing nexted year.I still want to go to Ethiopia.Its just going to be without the Nyala.When i was quoted on the hunt i was told that there were rumors that the trophy fees were going to double

The probelm for me is that the money call money.
If for a markhor hunt in Pakistan one spend 80.000-90.000 USD, why for a mountain nyala (that I consider about at the same level as trophy) Ethiopia can't have the same price? but also: if for a big European red stag one can spend 10000 Euro why RSA can't raise the price for the Kudu?
For me the only whay to save the International big game hunting is have only draw metod license,at the last for the rarest species.

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Originally posted by lorefuma:
The probelm for me is that the money call money.
If for a markhor hunt in Pakistan one spend 80.000-90.000 USD, why for a mountain nyala (that I consider about at the same level as trophy) Ethiopia can't have the same price? but also: if for a big European red stag one can spend 10000 Euro why RSA can't raise the price for the Kudu?
For me the only whay to save the International big game hunting is have only draw metod license,at the last for the rarest species.

Without meaning to sound insulting, do I understand that right? If so, why on earth would anyone expect the prices in different countries with different species, different challenges, different transport logistics, different salary structures, different taxes and shit load of other different costs be the same in two separate continents?

I'd rather like to be able to buy a 4x4 pick up at American prices, but that ain't gonna happen because it has to be brought halfway round the world and then get stuck with 100% import tax.

Dear Kathi

I just talked to François. He was in Ethiopia in december. Also last week, he made shoot a nice 37 incher Nyala.The client missed and fast shot again and got it at 450m. Tremendous difference in mountain level required 8 hours for recovering the trophy.

Definitely, the trophy fee isn't 15000$ but 5000$.
Nyala hunting requires 3 weeks, or paying day fees accordingly.
The concession fee is 100$ per diem
15% Vat is usually included in the daily rate.
Scout fee OK
Permit OK

Menelik bushbuck 2000$ OK

Hope this can help.
for more informations feel free to ask, though most of the time he is all over the world

Dannaud Safaris 21, avenue Thierry - 92410 Ville d'avray - Tél.: (33) 1 41 15 58 50 - Fax : (33) 1 47 09 51 79
Cell : (33) 6 61 51 70 80 - dannaud@dannaudsafaris.com

This one, bongo, and free ranging lion are all probably on my never hunt list. I would love to hunt them but just cant justify the prices with my situation in life. Maybe I will hit the lottery but short of that dont think so. Even if I could afford it I would have a mental block and gork about the money. You cant enjoy it if you have buyers remorse before you even go. So am I envious of those who can? Yes. Do I begrudge them the opportunity because I cant or wont? No.

According to an email I just received from The Hunting Report those trophy price increases are accurate. Mt. Nyala to $ 15,000 and the Melenic Bushbuck to $ 5,000. However, if your license has already been purchased by your safari company then you are still locked in at the old rate.

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Originally posted by jbderunz:
Dear Kathi

I just talked to François. He was in Ethiopia in december. Also last week, he made shoot a nice 37 incher Nyala.The client missed and fast shot again and got it at 450m. Tremendous difference in mountain level required 8 hours for recovering the trophy.

Definitely, the trophy fee isn't 15000$ but 5000$.
Nyala hunting requires 3 weeks, or paying day fees accordingly.
The concession fee is 100$ per diem
15% Vat is usually included in the daily rate.
Scout fee OK
Permit OK

Menelik bushbuck 2000$ OK

Hope this can help.
for more informations feel free to ask, though most of the time he is all over the world

Dannaud Safaris 21, avenue Thierry - 92410 Ville d'avray - Tél.: (33) 1 41 15 58 50 - Fax : (33) 1 47 09 51 79
Cell : (33) 6 61 51 70 80 - dannaud@dannaudsafaris.com

guess what. Francois, whoever he is , is apparently wrong. the trophy fees have tripled and a number of other fees are also up. i think he better check his sources again.

Not so fast, jdollar. According to the Hunting Report, the fee increase became effective on Feb. 18. So it depends on when the game was taken.

And Ethiopean outfitters, like TAHOA before them, have not given up the fight and will seek reductions.

Kathi, I am sorry to hear this, as I know how long you and Rick have been looking forward to this hunt.

Raising prices 200-300% in this economic climate is a fool's gambit. Let's hope that reason prevails . . .

François was unaware of this development but forward me the Hunting report's announce :

"Reminiscent of Tanzania two years ago, the Ethiopian government has approved a 200 to 300 percent increase in trophy fees, effective February 18, 2009. Rumors that trophy fees had skyrocketed began flying through cyberspace and onto online hunting forums just yesterday. Today, I received confirmation that the Ethiopian Parliament in fact had passed new regulations concerning wildlife utilization and sport hunting. Among those new regulations were approved increases in government license fees for all endemic species, including, of course, mountain nyala and Menelik's bushbuck. These fees have tripled from $5,000 to $15,000 for a nyala and $2,000 to $6,000 for a bushbuck. Licenses on other species have doubled.

Although the fees are effective immediately, I understand that outfitters who already paid for their clients' licenses at the old rate will not have to pay or charge clients additional funds. All others will be charged the new price for licenses. If you have booked a safari to Ethiopia, you should check in with your operator to determine whether your license fees were paid before the increase.

The Ethiopian Professional Hunters Association is meeting with the Wildlife Conservation Authority in March and hope to negotiate some amendments to the new laws. I will be following developments closely and will keep you informed. My advice is not to take any drastic actions right now. - Barbara Crown, Editor. "

could be suicidal?

But it also could be understand as Gov wanting to earn as much money as outfitters do? As Ethipian gov is targeting few high incomes clients, I am not sure that this move will impede hunting in Ethiopia......... but suckers are still warmly invited to gape at the show from far away...

Iam sure that the new licence fees will not affect the amount of people going to Ethiopia for mountain nyala.There will be a few people that might change there minds but most people will still hunt.I dont know how many Nyala are on quota but iam sure there are so few that it will still be snapped up well in advance.Before this price increase they were booking 3 years in advance.I know if i had that much money lying around i would still go.

François Dannaud's addition :
"Tout est survenu dans les derniers 48h ! J’étais encore en Ethiopie, à la chasse il est vrai, Lundi cette semaine et à aucun moment mes interlocuteurs n’ont évoqué cet effrayant triplement des taxes !!!"

That's happened during the last 48 hours. Monday (4 days ago)I was still in Ethiopia and none of my "interlocutors" or contacts made any mention of fees tripling"

I just received a PM from my friend agent Francois Dannaud. Today he has called the game dept of Ethiopia. Officially there are no new fees for the moment.
He suspects an outfitter in Ethiopia brainwashing the hunting report website and clients.
He’ll guide in Ethiopia again the 4th April, so we’ll know for sure whether Nyala fee climbed from 5000 to 15000 USD.