Texas Hunter and I are headed to the Selous in September. We realized today that we have overlooked one of the more important aspects of the trip -- what brand of beer should we purchase in Tanzania and how much should we purchase for a ten day hunt for two hunters. This is critical and we are turning to the experts on AR for advice and assistance. Thank you in advance for your counsel.

Ndovu is mighty good, but someone told me that Castle had something to do with it... and Castle is anti-gun (for confiscation) in RSA. Please, someone, tell me that it's another beer! Tusker is great, too.

SAB that is manufacturing Casle, Black Label and maby other beers donated money to Gun free RSA. I boicott every beer that is brewed or distributed by them. For years hunters supported them and they turned their back on us.

I am now drinking Windhoek, it is a very nice beer, you get the Lager and a Light, surprisingly the Light does not taste like a light beer. I do not know if they are available in Tanzania.

I think we should start a PBR factory in Tanzania. Its everything that you need.

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Originally posted by Jaco Human:
SAB that is manufacturing Casle, Black Label and maby other beers donated money to Gun free RSA. I boicott every beer that is brewed or distributed by them. For years hunters supported them and they turned their back on us.

I am now drinking Windhoek, it is a very nice beer, you get the Lager and a Light, surprisingly the Light does not taste like a light beer. I do not know if they are available in Tanzania.

Jaco,

The statement that SABS has donated towards Gun Free South Africa is of critical importance to my future well-being. I do not personally partake in many boycotts: But if true that SABS has gave even one sent to an anti-firearm organization as a donation, I'll NEVER EVER drink another SABS beer. [Up to now Miller Draft has been my preferred brand of beer.] I do agree that Windhoek is nice.

Please, I do not doubt your word, but do you have any proof of the donation? I would like to have something like a press release or statement, and then spread the word amongst hunters and other firearm owners to "Boycott SABS". But before I do that I would like to have some definite proof that such a donation was actually made.

Speaking of boycotts: Are we sure that the owners of Windhoek beer is not perhaps also guilty of the same or similar anti-firearm sentiments?

In good hunting.

Andrew.

Another thought...

In Tanzania, and for that fact, on ever safari that I've taken except for Burkina Faso, the beer/wine/liquor in camp was gratis... I've yet to have a bad tasting beer in Africa, btw.

We're hunting with Usangu. I believe they are Muslim so we are assuming we are responsible for arranging our own alcohol. The anti-gun information is interesting. We do not want to contribute to any party with an anti-gun sentiment.

I suggest you try Kilimanjaro beer which is a very good ale. I also suggest that based on a couple experiences you not rely in Tz on what you are told about the alcohol that is supposedly already in camp. If at all possible buy some in Dar or Arusha and take it to camp with you.

Texas Hunter - yes you must organise your own alcohol if hunting with Usangu and various other Muslim owned companies.

Tusker and Kilimanjaro are both fine beers in Tanzania.

I too am startled to hear that SAB supported anti-gun measures. Gentlemen they own Tanzania Breweries which produces all but Serengeti lager in Tanzania.

More importantly they own Miller and are the second biggest brewer of beer in the world after Anheuser Busch.

We in trouble!

Windhoek lager is an excellent beer and is available in Dar though expensive as it is imported. Mohans liquor store at Oyster Bay is your best bet - alternatively Shoppers Supermarket in Shoppers Plaza, Mikocheni.

JT,

Thanks for all the excellent information! Sounds like it is Windhoek. I don't mind spending a few extra bucks to reward a vendor aligned (or at least not opposing) my sentiments.

Regards,

Since a sundowner around the campfire is part of my African experience, will those companies that will not provide alcohol be up front with that information? Texas Hunter said he is "assuming" he must provide his own beer.

When I provide my own, will the company allow me to use their cooling system?

Usangu was up front. They will help us buy the beer, transport the beer, store the beer and serve the beer, they will just not furnish the beer for us. I can respect that.

Is the daily rate adjusted accordingly? for some that may be 1/4 to 1/2 the rate.

What daily rate?

I was served Castle, Tusker and Kilimanjaro, remembering "Killi time" as very good after a particularly hard Buffalo day. However at Sundowner time I would always enjoyed my Sunday Bourbon "Woodford Reserve", which I took with me. I also took Pierre' van Tonder a bottle, which I left for seed in the Selous. Good shooting.

Gents
I second the suggestions about Kilimanjaro, tusker, and especially Safari lager. These are all good, especially when served baridi as a sundowner. They come in 0,5 l glass bottles (roughly one pint) 5% alcohol and the price was around $1 at the local pub. For other beverages, and just for the sake of it, try to get hold of a bottle of the "Hakuna Matata" liqour (35%) and also try the local "Konyagi", which is some kind of local gin. There are also other types of alcohol bought in plastic sachets of 100ml, vodka, cane spirit, gin, whisky(??? if the scots whould call it that...)

Or, for the warm beers, "to bring out the power in you", take Guinness. I do not know if any of these brands are anti-gun, anti-hunting or anything else. Would they be, then they would definitely loose a customer.

For those with an iron belly, the local beer "pombe" could be tasted - make sure it is made on pure water and wild honey. A local banana wine was also an experience.

If it is true as stated, then avoid East African Breweries and go for those that does not try to limit our sport, I will look into that and then make my decision.

Sincerely
Daniel

For a Texan, there are two kinds of beer in the world - FREE and Lone Star. Free beer is the best.

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Up to now Miller Draft has been my preferred brand of beer.]

The company is now called SAB Miller, and ABI(Coca cola South Africa) is also owned by them as far as my information goes.

Wimpie

Wimpie,
I don't think Miller bought SAB, I belive it was the other way around or some kind of merger/co-ownership of the brand.

SAB is now apparently the second or third largest brewery in the world. They own something like 20 breweries in China, most of them in Africa, bought ou a major Italian Brewery etc etc. I don't know may facts, just what I heard.

I like Windhoek too...and 'Nile Special' from Uganda...damn good!
"I've yet to have a bad tasting beer in Africa, btw" -JudgeG. I aggree...most African beer is excellent when compared to other major brands or supoposed superior Euro beers that command higher prices!