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Any you guys have opinions on Weaver's early variables...1950s Vintage in 23/4x5 power?


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike,

I used a couple of them on .300 H&H and .375 H&H.
Crosshairs change appearant size when you change power. Not a bright as the old B&L 2.5x8A and less convenient to change power, BUT it had internal adjustments.
Decent eye relief and field of view. It got the job done, never had any problems with them. A deceased friend used one on his .300 H&H for probably 40 years, 35 at least.
 
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I still have some rifles that I have had for 40 or 50 years with Weaver Veriables still on them! I can say when they were new, they were about as good as any other brand of veriable scope. The only two Weaver veriables I've ever had trouble with were a V-8 which was fixed ten times by Weaver,no charge, and then I was given a NEW Weaver V-3x9 in trade so they didn't have to fix it again. The scope was discontinued! The other was a V-4.5 that I foolishly shot a 41 Mag Ruger Black Hawk pistol under, destroyong the lens with one shot!

The V-8 was Weaver's poor design,it had a fiber cam tube that was prone to chipping. The V-4.5 was my mistake! Today I have Weaver scopes from 2x,fixed to 4-12 veriable all over 30 years old, and not one bit of trouble with any of them, and all have been hunted in weather from 20 degs below, to 108 degs above, and in rain and snow, with no problem.

I have no experience with the New Weavers, but I wouldn't be opposed to haveing one on any of my rifles!


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I had one of the old 2-7X?????, but no help with your specific model.

Compared to today's scopes, it was a piece of junk.


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I had one of the old V8's man was it worthless, had to resight it in about every 3rd shot. the front ring held the scope in place by itseld, and the rear had the adjustment in it.
 
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Ok guys... here is the model number anybody know about this

WEAVER KV 2 3/4 - 5 X Variable Steel Tube Rifle Scope


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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I have used them a lot because that was about all that was availablel in the beginning...The old 2.5, 4 and 6s were decent scopes for the desert Southwest that I grew up in but they did and do fog in a heartbeat..

I was a happy camper when Leupold came out with the M8 and I have used them ever since..

I recently got one of the new Weavers in a trade, its a 2.5X and its clear as a bell and seems to be a nice scope.


Ray Atkinson
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Please understand that by replying to this post I am in no way claiming to be a Sr. member. I have however owned and still own several old Weaver scopes. Mostly V9's and K6's and one Marksman 3x9. In my opinion they are the best alternative to the cheapo Wal-Mart crap. They are less expensive, more rugged and the optics are as good or better. Remember what they are an old scope with old technology. Keep that in mind and you will get along fine.


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I am still using my first ever K4 on a current Ruger 10/22 rifle. It was on my favorite 06 for many years and then has been put on several things. Now it will stay on the Ruger until it is adios!
It was the scope of its day!


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Posts: 1529 | Location: Texas | Registered: 15 December 2003Reply With Quote
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SmilerI grew up in El Paso, and came to know the Weaver family. Interesting and somewhat tragic generational changes. But I digress ...

The old KV was a fine scope for its intended use and for its era. I still have one, but keep it around mostly for nostalgia. All the above noted characteristics are accurate. Tough enough as far as holding zero and standing up to recoil. But not a bright scope, the reticle changes size as you change power, and somewhat prone to fogging. Fun to have, but not nearly the scope of even an old Leupold 4X, much less any of the newer ones like Burris, Leupold, or the Europeans.
 
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