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As a big game hunter I find this a most disturbing video. Should this be a compulsory watch for all who hunt(ed) in Africa? Warning - graphic scenes John | ||
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Simply as a human being I find it disturbing. Von Gruff. | |||
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Pretty much decades old news, anyone who has followed modern African history knows about all of this. Jerry Huffaker State, National and World Champion Taxidermist | |||
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So sorry, Im sure this is probably common knowledge. I thought it was rather interesting. The again, I am quite ignorant. John | |||
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My take on the film,(I refer to the original full length film which is both beautiful and disturbing. There are several edited versions including a very short version narrated in English. All of the edited versions have one thing in common: they have cut out the beauty and left all of the disturbing portions. The shortest versions are almost total gore and have all the redeeming value of a snuff film.....) anyway, my take on the film is that is provides some wonderful footage for those who already have a solid working knowledge of Africa and its history, but the film will leave the neophyte with a completely warped sense of what Africa is all about. The film-makers behind Africa Addio are know as revolutionaries of this genre with other "classics" such as Mondo Cane to their credit. They are also well know for their heavy use of staged scenes and twisting of the facts to show what they want to see. Racists love this movie and point to it as solid proof that their theory of white supremacy is valid. I can't quite say I "love" this film, but I do love some of the footage and I am blown away by the irony. Every time I watch this film I am amazed that the racists fail to see the irony, but I guess we all see what we want to see. There is a saying in academia to the effect that "a historical text provides more insight into the period and culture in which it was produced, than it provides about the period and culture it attempts to describe. Africa Addio is a shining example of this phenomenon. Bottom line: it is worth a watch, but it is about as factual as the "documentaries" produced by Michael Moore. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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OK, I just spent the last two hours - seemed like much longer - watching that piece of crap. Slow night with my wife outta town. I would bet that during the time it was made - mid-'60s - those Italian wannabe film makers were having a bad trip on some street acid. What was their point? I guess it really can only be viewed in light of the time in which it was made. I was around and old enough to know better. Really, you don't need/want to waste two hours of your life watching this garbage. Do something constructive instead, like read BILL STEWART's new book "ELEPHANT and ELEPHANT GUNS"; you'll learn much more useful information. Certainly nothing new to be gained from this film for me. Jason - What are you doin' up there on the river? Not smokin' dope are ya? Last time I was in Healdsburg was 3 years ago and it still looked like Hippieville. Spent a half hour in the Safeway and thought I was time travelin'. Maybe this "film" was hard to find for so long because it's a piece of dung waste of time with no socially redeeming value! Ya think??? Sorry, but I won't be using you as my go to film critic. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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Just got through watching snippets of the film. The scenes where they were shooting impala and elephants were kind of farcical. When the guns fire they have dubbed in the sound with a "twang" just like they did in the old spaghetti westerns. Half expected Lee Van Cleef or Clint Eastwood to ride in. | |||
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Lionhunter: "it's a piece of dung" Sorry Lionhunter, but I won't be using YOU as my "go to film critic". Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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But you did finish it, so I must conclude that you found something in it worthwhile. Maybe the cinematography or the constant irony(intended or not?)...
That is probably good rule of thumb for everyone on the forum as I have a pretty eclectic tastes, I even like French films. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Thanks for that perceptive post Jason. I found the clip very disturbing as this is the first time I saw any of this. I realised that this was decades old and so it was from a much older world view. I wonder where & how they got the shots of the bones & skeletons strewn around,. I wonder if they were just driving around an area repeatedly & shooting from different angles to give the impression that it was miles of the morbid stuff. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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