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"Hello to all involved in this enormous thread my name is Sean Scott and I am stepping in to improve overall customer relations and communication with Martin Pieters Safaris (from now on referred to as MPS). Some of you may know of my efforts at Jimba with Wayne to promote and develop Chete Safari Area and the challenges faced with Jimba. I AM GOING TO CLOSE this thread! First Martin apologizes to the entire community for letting this and other issues go on he understand his errors and want to rectify any ongoing problems. In the macho world of being a Zim PH communication and disputes with the clientele can be hard for them to manage and or admit to when they come from a world full of jackals and hyenas (along with some pretty bad animals at work as well) but in Martins case time and hindsight have shown him that the only way to survive in a world run by social media and instant communications is to deal with problems head on no matter how painful it may be to the pocket book or ego. So he we go. I would invite ANY previous client that has any issue with MPS to contact me directly. I cannot turn back time undoing the past but I can show that we are willing to openly address the situation or issues and that we are willingly committed to doing WHATEVER it takes short of Martin committing Hari-kari/Sepuku to rectify these open problems and to demonstrate to the hunting community that we are capable of running an upfront operation at Matetsi Block 5 and our other great hunting areas. SAFARISEAN I am contacting you directly so you can prove your sincerity. Please send me a check for $2378 for the trophy fee Martin kept without me even seeing a mature bull let alone getting a shot at one. That would be proof "to demonstrate to the hunting community that we are capable of running an upfront operation..." Thanks. | ||
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MP should come on here to explain himself, not an apology from a third person. If customer relations are to improve it should be done via MP and no one else. Cal PS. As an after thought, if MP does not come on here and things go south again, it will be the third party that takes the blame. MP should be here and no one else. _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Agreed Cal. 100%! His reputation is shot, no one is gonna fix it for him. | |||
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Let me clear that I totally believe you. How in the world did MPS come up with a weird number like $2,378 for a trophy fee? I hunted with them in 2014. I had a good time. I was successful. There were some issues but not as severe as yours. I had left ammo in Zim. Boxes of 500 NE ammo and 416 ammo. MP picked it up for me. It has never been seen again. The other issues were more minor. It is interesting that few, if any, of the PHs that worked with him still do so. Word has it they did not get paid. True or not, I do not know. | |||
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I maybe wrong, but I think only moderators can close a thread. You can delete your thread, but I think this would be bad PR given all that has transpired. I too strongly believe MP should be doing this damage control. If he had hunts to sale, with no fires to his feet, he would be posting himself. Ultimately, “the lack of customer service” as you described it from the elephant hunting thread that started this is not going to be absolved by apologies. Action to those two hunters that were wronged, they were wronged, And corrective mindset/company procedures to prevent such happenings over time are what is necessary | |||
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I believe he is probably good guy, but maybe slipped and then the mud got even more slippery and he landed on his face Kinda like little infraction first, then we get more brazen and then careless and then kaboom, busted... " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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This can happen to any of us. But the measure of the man is in how he deals with the recovery. You get out of the mud, look in the mirror and recognize your faults, then go out and fix the mess you made. This sending out a surrogate to make sweeping claims is far from my idea of a graceful recovery. Tim 0351 USMC | |||
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I met JTEX while he was trying to get a leopard and there were no plains game for him to shoot for bait in 2014. I was at the UME camp with my wife and children hunting Buffalo. I never got on the sticks. I had asked Martin ahead of time if quota permitted could I shoot a hippo or croc at trophy fee. He said yes. When we got to Bullawayo, suddenly the those trophy fees were double due to him" having to buy extra quota. So a croc was now 7k and a hippo 8k. By the way, he had extra quota late season that year on hippo and croc that he advertised here on AR. I went after hippo as buffalo were scarce. I had never hunted hippo. The PH told me which one to shoot. I did take the shot and so I am responsible. I put one in the brain at 100yds on the one I was told to shoot. It was a cow. Martin graciously allowed me to pay only $6500 for a cow hippo when prior to landing in Zim, the price for a bull was 4k. We were told a charter out to Huange was $1800 in camp and so we booked it. The price on my final bill was $2800. That was my experience with MP safaris Kodiak 2022 Namibia 2019 Namibia 2018 South Africa 2017 Alaska Brown Bear 2016 South Africa, 2016 Zimbabwe 2014 South Africa 2013 Australia 2011 Alberta 2009 Namibia 2007 Alberta 2006 | |||
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I hunted with Martin Pieters in Zim (south Omay) 2012. I’ve posted the issues here and see no value in rehashing it. At this point, not a thing can be done to remedy the issues, so I’m not going to waste my time or yours. I wasted enough of my time on that safari. And, good post, Bobmn. Money talks and bs walks. Given who you are dealing with, I unfortunately expect the latter. NRA Patron member | |||
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Yep. I remember. The area was so poached out I had to buy goats for leopard baits.... I was there for buffalo as well, never even saw a bull. . | |||
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I think it is unfair to ask SAFARISEAN to do anything about any of Martin's previous bad dealings. Martin created this mess, and only he can clear it. The part I do not understand is why did SAFARISEAN ever get involved with Martin. One normally does not wish to start a business with unnecessary weight on his shoulders, which will make at least some prospective clients turn away once they know who they are dealing with. | |||
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I screw spelling up all the time on the internet, mostly because 99% of my internet is off of my phone. I have ADD, own a restaurant, and basically run 100 miles an hour 7 days a week. Given the nature of this thread, I would damn sure get the phrase “mea culpa” correct. | |||
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Bobmn Please let us know when this debt has been settled. Larry when your ammunition has been returned. I would be keen to purchase both the .500 and .416 ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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A single post on AR is a 1000 miles away from rectifying the myriad of complaints. Once a reputation is destroyed it's hard to get it back. Jeff | |||
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Colin: Thank you for the spelling correction | |||
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Saeed: I am merely responding to SAFARISEAN's invitation | |||
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Just saw a post on the “other” forum regarding Martin Pieters 2019 hunt results. Like last year some really nice ele and buff taken, I assume , near Gonarezhou. Only difference this year is PH Mauro Fabris was in both ele pics. | |||
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I can appreciate Sean’s attitude and comments on some things. Doing things the right way, the buck stops here, etc. I find that admirable. On the other hand, with that type of attitude, teaming up with MP seems very puzzling to me. Some of the comments he made come off as arrogant to me. Of course, I don’t know what he really means. If MP is going to get his reputation cleared , he is going to have to do it. No one else can do it for him. | |||
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May be what he is trying to tell us that any dealings from now on, even with MARTIN being involved, will be taken care of properly. For me personally, ANY set that involves Martin means DO NOT TOUCH! Several people had good hunts with MARTIN in the past. But the many stories we hear of his dealings in the latter part do not make happy reading. Again, I repeat wha I have always said. It is not worth wasting your money on anyone that has had proved misdealings. Plenty of very good, honest, professional hunters in Zimbabwe who have no blemish on their names. I would hunt with one of these, and know for sure I will get what I had hoped for. | |||
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100% what Cal said! WTF "apologises" by third-party proxy??? | |||
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Wasn’t Martin president of the Zimbabwe PH association? I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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Didn’t someone post that we should pick a member the professional hunters association to be sure of good service?? HAHAHAHA! Being royally screwed by non other that the very president of the association!! That takes some doing!  | |||
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I have seen Ads for Martin in Matesi 5? | |||
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They hunt Gonarezhou early and Matetsi a bit later in the season. | |||
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FYI Saeed MP is no longer a member of ZPHGA. However when he was the chairman of the association in 2011/12 I’ll be the first to admit he did a good job. | |||
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A lot of bad press on this guy. More than enough to steer clear White Mountains Arizona | |||
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that may explain some issues. merci Thierry. | |||
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I have not hunted with MP though I booked a hunt in the Ume for 2014 and paid a deposit in 2012. I had to call off the hunt for personal reasons. No fault of MP. What I found was that he had a good reputation as a PH and then as an outfitter. He also seems to be a smart businessman with other interests. Between PH, Outfitter and businessman all in one, things can get tricky. He used to own a Lodge in Vic falls (Gorges?) and another photo safari in Hwange NP. They are not cheap operations. His Ume hunting operations seem to have had problems as the Camp Manager was selling hunts privately. I wonder where his main focus is these days? "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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He had a great lodge in Hwange. It was called Nehimba. My family and I went after my failed buff safari and had a great time. The manager was the wife of his long time PH, Bruce. There was an older gentleman named Rob who was a nature guide. He had a Jeffreys chambered in 404 Jeffreys serial number 007 that was his father's and he let me shoot it. What a treat!. The lodge Gorges was owned by his wife Candy's father. Also a great place that we stayed at. He had everything lined up to be one stop shop for a safari hunter for before and after the hunt. It was the hunt and the business associated with the hunt that left a bad taste in my mouth. Kodiak 2022 Namibia 2019 Namibia 2018 South Africa 2017 Alaska Brown Bear 2016 South Africa, 2016 Zimbabwe 2014 South Africa 2013 Australia 2011 Alberta 2009 Namibia 2007 Alberta 2006 | |||
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Has SafariSean gone underground? Haven't seen him around since a few days after his announcement of handling Martin's operations. And nothing on this thread. | |||
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By not coming on here, MP is committing professional suicide. IMHO it's too late now. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Probably worth pointing out PAST president of the association. Some years back.
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He never had the Omay concession. Despite claims otherwise on his webpage. He was allowed to conduct hunts out of there like anyone else, and that's it.
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