We usually use Fauna and Flora but my last batch of stuff is substantially late. And I have made multiple emails to find out what the deal is and have heard nothing for 3 weeks. Upset with them right now.
Originally posted by Stephen Goldfinch: We usually use Fauna and Flora but my last batch of stuff is substantially late. And I have made multiple emails to find out what the deal is and have heard nothing for 3 weeks. Upset with them right now.
For some reason emails seem to fall through the cracks. I had problems last year and no answer again this year. Plan to call next week just to make sure they have all that is required get status update.
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Posts: 1313 | Location: The People's Republic of Maryland, USA | Registered: 05 August 2006
They processed my husband's Marco Polo sheep and my ibex from Tajikistan. Matt Mayer at extension 110 was very responsive to questions and excellent to work with through the import process.
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Posts: 9477 | Location: Chicago | Registered: 23 July 2003
Used them twice (2003 & 2005) to sea freight mounted trophies from SA to Minnesota. Absolutely no complaints, they were super responsive to questions and everything arrived at my door in good shape and on time.
Posts: 911 | Location: Minnesota | Registered: 09 January 2005
Here's my "problem". I've not hired them, so they don't work for me, yet they've tried to inject themselves into the handling of my shipment from Zimbabwe. They are asking for me to complete forms for them. World Wide Logistics tells me Maple Freight from Bulawayo is sending my shipment to Houston. F&F is trying to clear the shipment through New York, against my wishes. I think I know what the "F" & "F" stand for.
Posts: 13856 | Location: Texas | Registered: 10 May 2002
Originally posted by Kensco: Here's my "problem". I've not hired them, so they don't work for me, yet they've tried to inject themselves into the handling of my shipment from Zimbabwe. They are asking for me to complete forms for them. World Wide Logistics tells me Maple Freight from Bulawayo is sending my shipment to Houston. F&F is trying to clear the shipment through New York, against my wishes. I think I know what the "F" & "F" stand for.
They did that to me twice despite explicit instructions to the freight shipper not to. I'm sure they do a fine job if you decide to hire them and pay all their fancy charges. But when you don't hire them and are forced to pay then things aren't so good.
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Posts: 19542 | Location: The LOST Nation | Registered: 27 March 2001
I've cleared my own shipment after F+F's fancy charges,
Know what?
They earn it,they can deal with it,and the running around from building to building,standing in line.Waiting for a bunch of apothetic gov't employees and freight people who don't give a shit.
And I have more time than money,and live with in a short drive to JFK....
Don't know if other ports of entry are the same...
Posts: 444 | Location: Hudson Valley | Registered: 07 July 2009
As you have read, I made my first trip to Africa a year ago, to Zimbabwe to hunt Cape Buffalo. I talked to them a month later at SCI Reno. Matt took the time to explain everything to a first timer. He even walked over to CM Safaris (whom I hunted with) and spend several minutes with Myles getting notes on my stuff. We walked back over to his booth, and they worked up a quote for me. The shipment went ocean freight, into NYC. They send a person over to deal with that disjointed Cluster-F--k we call customs, and got it on a truck. It came to my taxidermist's in excellent condition. They are not cheap, but losing your stuff is not either.
I am going to Africa again in mid-April. I will use them again.
Used them on my first safari and will use them again in a few months. They had better prices than other options and my trophies were delived to my house by a very helpful driver. Hope thet are still as good as they were in 2005.
We just cleared my buddies crate the same way from Bulawayo via World Wide Logistics and Maple Freight, final destination Baltimore.
FWIW, people that have used F and F have nothing but good things to say. There are some us that like doing it ourselves. I've cleared 5 shipments in the last 6 years myself and (knock on wood) no issues. The money saved has gone towards trophy fee's on the next hunt.
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I used them once and won't again. They are on the east coast but would call me at 5:30 am (PST). I asked them to note I was three hours earlier and not to call at 5:30 am, they did it again- I got a guy with a lot of NY attitude.
They couldn't get it straight that I wanted the trophies to go to our house in California, not NC, as I recall the shipment started out to NC in spite of this, then they hit me with a much bigger quote for shipping to Cali, even though the original quote was for California.
No thanks!
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Posts: 1489 | Location: North Carolina | Registered: 19 July 2005
I was "forced" into using them on my first safari--IM instructed them to have the shipment sent to Atlanta, not New York, to clear--which only made sense, in that I live in Atlanta.
Shipment went to NY and then trucked down here, at considerable extra expense.
I didn't know any better back then but would not recommend them, based on their actions in the past.
Posts: 69 | Location: Atlanta | Registered: 02 July 2009
Your experience is similar to what I'm hearing from others. F&F seem to have good connections in Africa, read that as, paid informants who shift work their way, or allow them to view shipments that are none of their business. I'm used to 3rd world countries, so that doesn't bother me. I do resent companies trying to slide-in to disrupt what would normally be an easy process. Having to pay to have trophies shipped overland from New York to Houston is pure B.S. and they need to be careful they don't lose business over it.
The e-mail I got out of the blue giving me directions how to "expedite" my shipment to New York came from Matt Mayers.
Posts: 13856 | Location: Texas | Registered: 10 May 2002
I've used F&F several times. John and Matt have always been very repsonsive. They even met me at the gate at JFK one time with hand carried trophies and yes, for a price, but very reasonable. They make the whole process very simple. I tried clearing my own items one time and never will again! Many phone calls, headaches and screw-ups doing it myself. The Feds are just plain a pain to deal with and many seem to refer you to someone else that only doesn't seem to know or care. For me, I'll go with Fauna & Flora each time.
I am using them for the fourth time. I am really pissed with them at the moment. My leopard was flown to the USA 4 weeks ago. This after a mess I won't to into.
I was told this week that my leopard was now in Chicago and had been held up by USDA!!!!!???? How did it get to Chicago and not clear customs at point of entry in NY? And USDA??? They say that the leopard is on its way back to NY. They are giving me a crock of crap. I am calling them again tomorrow to hear the latest story.
I may not use them in the future. Up to now they have been fantastic.
Posts: 64 | Location: Ohio, USA | Registered: 30 September 2007
I got a response from Worldwide Logistics, saying, in a nice way, to ignore the poaching attempt by F&F, and that my 2008 trophies will clear Customs in Houston as originally planned.
I'm glad I'm taking a break from Africa and hunting Alaska next year.
Posts: 13856 | Location: Texas | Registered: 10 May 2002
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Posts: 1207 | Location: Tomball or Rocksprings with Namibia on my mind! | Registered: 29 March 2008
The folks at WELL Worldwide Logistics are great. I've used them for several shipments without any problems whatsoever. I would object to having someone else foisted upon me regardless of who it was if I had already made arrangements with another company I had faith in. Not to mention there is a big difference in New York and Houston depending on where your taxidermist is!
Posts: 659 | Location: Texas | Registered: 28 June 2003
My taxidermist is Jerry Huffaker, Abilene, Texas. (I'm guessing Houston is a little closer to him than New York City.) The e-mail I got from F&F was sent to about thirty other hunters with shipments coming, so F&F probably snagged a few people.
Posts: 13856 | Location: Texas | Registered: 10 May 2002
I've nothing but good things to say about F & F. John and Matt have been 'straight arrow' with me. I'll pay them a couple hundred bucks to get my stuff through the gauntlet of U.S. Customs, U.S.F&W, and the U.S. Ag. Department. Ever dealt with the Center for Disease Control out of Atlanta? Try bringing some baboon stuff in. My suggestion is 'grab your ass!' Matt & John sorted this out for a shipment of mine. Again, it was a couple hundred bucks well spent.
Posts: 3276 | Location: Western Slope Colorado, USA | Registered: 17 August 2001
Originally posted by Kensco: The e-mail I got from F&F was sent to about thirty other hunters with shipments coming, so F&F probably snagged a few people.
What exactly did Fauna & Flora state in the email?
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Posts: 13613 | Location: New England | Registered: 06 June 2003
For what is worth we have never used F & F. Our group has always used Don Truley with Coppersmith out of Dallas. Our goods are sent to Dallas port of entry and never have had the slightest hitch. Service and fees have always been to our satisfaction. Our groups shipments are quite a few over the years from all compass points and about half amount from sub-Saharan Africa. I have found using a pro saves us time which is money.
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