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Now Khama is accusing Trump of encouraging poaching and he is praising China as an example of conservation

Are you shitting me right?


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How soon will he be gone? As I understand it, Botswana may have a new President in the future. Anyone have any news or details on this?
 
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Fact is that Trump’s refusal to lift the import ban on lion and elephant does encourage and facilitate poaching.


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Fact is that Trump’s refusal to lift the import ban on lion and elephant does encourage and facilitate poaching.


Completely agree. Trump’s stance benefits himself politically, but facilitates, encourages, and advances poaching.


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Botswana's Ian Khama: Trump encouraging elephant poaching

16 March 2018



The outgoing president of Botswana has attacked his US counterpart Donald Trump for "encouraging poaching" by overturning a ban on the import of hunting trophies.

Speaking at an anti-poaching summit in Botswana, two weeks before he steps down, President Ian Khama told the BBC it was not just Mr Trump's attitude towards wildlife he was concerned about, but his "attitude towards the whole planet".

The US government recently made a U-turn on the import of animal heads from Africa - the "trophies" prized by American hunters travelling to the continent.

Mr Khama said that his government had "actually banned hunting" but that Mr Trump's lifting of the trophy ban was "encouraging poaching in this country".



Mr Khama was speaking at the Giant's Club Summit in Kasane, which is discussing efforts to tackle the poaching epidemic which is killing tens of thousands of elephants every year.

Although the number of animals being poached for ivory has been dropping over the past few years, more elephants are being killed for their tusks than are being born, leaving them in danger.

"We haven't passed the worst of the poaching crisis," said Mike Chase, director and founder of Elephants Without Borders.

"The political will to address these issues is unfortunately not there. It has been in Botswana, and if our neighbours can learn from Botswana's example I feel we can address this poaching crisis."



The summit is showcasing ways of improving anti-poaching measures, borrowing from counter-terrorism.

"The focus now is on intelligence-led patrol work, intelligence-led investigations," said Kevin Vallack, a former British policeman and intelligence officer, now with the conservation group Space for Giants.

"So the same principles apply as in counter-terrorism and organised crime - countering terrorists, traffickers… and wildlife poachers."

Preventing human-wildlife conflict, and helping elephants have more value to communities alive than dead are key areas of discussion, but many conservationists believe a total ban on ivory trade is the only way to save the elephants.


The EU, and the UK specifically, are the biggest exporters of legal ivory - much of it labelled as antique - and three African presidents have now put their name to a million-signature global petition asking for a ban on this legal trade in ivory.

President Khama praised China for implementing a ban on their domestic ivory trade earlier this year, and called on Britain and the EU to do likewise.

"When you look at the other countries coming on board - for example China - I think they are setting a wonderful example to follow, whether it's the UK or the European Union."

The UK Minister for Africa, Harriett Baldwin, who is attending the summit said: "Our aim is to ban antique ivory sales in the UK this year."

"People in the UK really care passionately about this issue and they want to make sure we save these magnificent elephants in the wild for future generations," she said.

A consultation period on how the UK should implement any ban, and what the exceptions might be, ended recently, and an announcement on the new government policy is expected in the coming weeks.


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Originally posted by MJines:
Fact is that Trump’s refusal to lift the import ban on lion and elephant does encourage and facilitate poaching.


Mike, read it correctly


" Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins.
When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar.
Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan
PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move...

Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies...
Only fools hope to live forever
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Fact is that Trump’s refusal to lift the import ban on lion and elephant does encourage and facilitate poaching.


Mike, read it correctly


. . . my statement is correct as stated.


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The fact is that Botswana has a serious elephant overpopulation..something Khama flatly refuses to acknowledge..

Elephant turn up in areas they have never been seen before and raid crops, run down fences at farms and destroy...and the government just turn a blind eye..



 
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Originally posted by MJines:
Fact is that Trump’s refusal to lift the import ban on lion and elephant does encourage and facilitate poaching.


Mike, read it correctly


. . . my statement is correct as stated.


What I meant
Khama says Trump allows, while Trump doesn’t


" Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins.
When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar.
Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan
PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move...

Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies...
Only fools hope to live forever
“ Hávamál”
 
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And China is still the number one consumer of illegal ivory.

Khama is an idiot.


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What you want to bet a near relative will be his replacement.


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Truly astonishing level of hypocrisy there, from Khama. As hard as it is to believe that people are stupid enough to believe him, unfortunately some do.


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This is ridiculous. khama stopped elephant hunting. While Trump is anti elephant hunting, he hasn't stopped anyone from hunting elephant.

He was flat wrong not reversing the import ban. But the corrupt African nations don't help much.......

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Khama is a very good leader by African standards, but he has sold out to the ARAs, and he needs to justify that, which is what he's doing.
 
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"When you look at the other countries coming on board - for example China - I think they are setting a wonderful example to follow, whether it's the UK or the European Union."


Mind boggling comment that.


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"When you look at the other countries coming on board - for example China - I think they are setting a wonderful example to follow, whether it's the UK or the European Union."


Mind boggling comment that.


I wonder how much money the Chinese have slid Khama’s way over the years?



 
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