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I agree with Wendell's assessment. Another issue to consider is the block you are hunting. Hunting blocks in the Selous that are hunted by the same company that has the lease are probably going to be better managed than those where the leaseholder just sells his quota to a bunch of different suitcase PHs. Regards, Terry  Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns] | |||
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Below are two buff I shot in the Selous, K1-K2 on a 10day safari. We looked over, often at tag-your-it distance, probably 500 or more buff. I looked closley at every skull in the skinning shead and the best head was probably 41, average 36 perhaps. However the Selous really has the feel of "darkest Africa". Best experience of my life.  The photo below is of a true 46in buff taken in exactly the same area almost exactly one year later. It was shot by a fellow AR member. Luck of the draw...  The next pitcure is of a buff I shot in Zim in 03. It is 43in.  The one peice of advice that is often given but not always undertood is that the experience of buff hunting is the object more so than the trophy. I actually cherish the memories of blown stocks, close encounters with dugga boys too small to shoot, being encircled by hundreds of cows, calfs and young bulls every bit as much as the kills themselfs. Really more so.... If you are going on your first safari or first DG safari, I would recommend going where there are a lot of buff. That's the Selous. Brett | |||
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Brett is right. Don't get me wrong, the Selous is a fantastic place, if you go at the right time!. You will shoot your Buff you will see tons of plainsgame, Elephant, possibly Lions, sometimes even Leopard, Croc Hippo, etc. It is a piece of Africa that must be seen, so what if the Buffalo are smaller than average. The Selous is a great place. | |||
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 right on the money!!let's go hunting!! nothin sweeter than the smell of fresh blood on your hunting boots | |||
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I think a good hard boss is essential on any long horned cape buffalo, otherwise I don't really ee the point in taking it as a trophy. JMO. | |||
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Dan, I don't think that is low budget for tips. All my hunts have been owner/operator. I do not believe in this 10% of the cost of the hunt or anything like that. I look at it on a daily basis...when i paying $350-$500 a day for service...I don't think I need to tip $50 a day for service. I think folks have over blown the tipping thing and then it became part of the price. i went on my first Safari in 98 and tipped the PH $250 for a 10 day hunt. He was very grateful and happy. I also tipped the staff about $100. By the next trip in 2001, i was handed a suggested tipping guide with my bill and it really pissed me off. I tip some...I bring some gifts...I do lots of things but this issue of $500-1000 in tips in my mind is ludicrous. Now maybe if its a 21 day safari you mighyt be getting to the those other numbers but not for a 10 day buffalo hunt. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I found a 10 day hunt in Masailand 1x1 for 2 buffs (included) for $12,500. I can't remember who it was with. I will have to do a little research. _______________________________________________________ Hunt Report - South Africa 2022 Wade Abadie - Wild Shot Photography Website | Facebook | Instagram | |||
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That sounds like a very good price assuming it is with an honest outfitter. Are all the areas in the Masai good or are there some that aren't very good? | |||
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Gentlemen, the best advice I have heard is not to worry about trophy size when it comes to buffalo - more so on your first few hunts! When you are stalking within 20 yards of a solid bossed bull it don't matter really if he is 36 or 40 inches wide. the excitement, the danger, the adrenaline is the same. There are but a handful of areas where you have a better than average chance at finding a 40+ inch bull in 7-10 days - and then you still need to kill it!  On a 7-10 day hunt I want to see several buffalo herds a day, I want to attempt as many stalks as possible, I want to find myself "amongst them" as often as I can, I want to see and smell them as often as possible, I want to track them as many times as I can, i want to shoot the first HARD BOSSED BULL I can and then do more of the same and maybe be a bit more choosy before pressing the triggeR on the 2nd buff until i get to the last couple of days of my hunt where the next HARD BOSSED bull will be PERFECT!  The best place I know to do this is the Selous and to a lesser extent the Kilombero valley. Good hunting! "...Them, they were Giants!" J.A. Hunter describing the early explorers and settlers of East Africa hunting is not about the killing but about the chase of the hunt.... Ortega Y Gasset | |||
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I already have a buff hunt planned in Nov. I was just curious as to the quality in different areas. I agree with you that trophy size is over rated in the hunting world today. As in most things in life it is the journey not the destination. | |||
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Well said. Leave the tape measure in the wife's sewing cabinet. | |||
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.....Ain't that the truth! Funny how those who have never hunted a Buff are most concerned about trophy size..... once someone's got in amongst 'em a few times, they realise that inches aren't particularly important. Size is always nice - but the memory of the stalk remains a long time after you.ve forgotten the measurement in inches..... | |||
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Can a 45" buff kill you any deader than a 38" buff"? 465H&H | |||
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Dunno, I've never been killed by a Buffalo !  | |||
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I don't know either, but I sure as hell don't plan to find out! _______________________________________________________ Hunt Report - South Africa 2022 Wade Abadie - Wild Shot Photography Website | Facebook | Instagram | |||
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I just found a pretty good deal with Usangu Safaris. Check out Usangu Safaris' Website. Scroll down on the left and check out the 7, 10, and 16 day buff hunts. The 10 day hunt includes 2 buff 1x1 inclusive of all fees etc...for $13,900 or 2x1 for $11,900. The 16 day hunt includes 3 buff 1x1 all inclusive for $22,500 or 2x1 for $19,900. I think these are pretty fair prices. _______________________________________________________ Hunt Report - South Africa 2022 Wade Abadie - Wild Shot Photography Website | Facebook | Instagram | |||
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Hi ! I wouldn`t mind shoot a buffalo in africa, but I really don`t care about the trophy and such. For me its just the hunt only. Do one have to pay for trophy if you don`t want the buff? DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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No mention of Mozambique...we run a 14 day hunt in N Moz at $750/day 2x1 plus trophy fees: Trophy Fees: Buffalo US$ 2,750 Lion US$ 3,700 Leopard US$ 3,750 Hippo US$ 2,900 Crocodile US$ 2,250 Sable US$ 4,000 That's a deal, esp. on Lion where you can expect to pay 10x that amount in SA or Botswana. Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear | |||
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Can you really go on a Lion and Buffalo safari in Moz for less then 17K including trophy fees or a 14 day Lion for 14200? Whats the catch? How is the trophy quality on the animals you listed especially Lion, Buff and Sable? | |||
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Which outfitter would it be with? | |||
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Yes, no catch, and big Buff and Sable. Lion are luck of the draw. You have a PM. Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear | |||
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