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3 poachers killed https://www.zimlive.com/2019/0...ey-gun-fight-police/ I have always felt the most dangerous thing in the save was not the big five but the r4 armed rhino patrol. They have interrupted a few of my hunts while patrolling  Mike | ||
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Fully agree. They appeared out of no where during our last hunt. Polite and professional, but deadly serious. Wrong group to tangle with .... JEB Katy, TX Already I was beginning to fall into the African way of thinking: That if you properly respect what you are after, and shoot it cleanly and on the animal's terrain, if you imprison in your mind all the wonder of the day from sky to smell to breeze to flowers—then you have not merely killed an animal. You have lent immortality to a beast you have killed because you loved him and wanted him forever so that you could always recapture the day - Robert Ruark DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Well done rhino patrol. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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While there in 2016 the rhino trust guys followed some poacher's out of the Save and through some village's and finally caught up with them a long ways north. I couldn't believe that they tracked them that far, on the way back to Harare the camp manager said they caught them here and we had been driving a couple hours. We came up on the anti poaching camp and the rhino trust guys where all sitting around a fire and they came out to see my Buffalo and congratulate me, one of my best memories of my first safari. | |||
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This kind of deal don't happen enough. George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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When I was in the Save in 2011 we visited a camp & the Rangers there had 2 poachers in the bed of the truck. They didn't look so well. Got a picture of it stored somewhere. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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I don't agree with the poaching, but that country has created problems that have no viable solutions. If the poachers fired on the Rangers, the rangers had no choice. We have to wonder though if we are not returning to medieval days, when killing the King's deer was a capital offense. | |||
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The save rhino guys are not dangerous cause they wait to be fired upon. They are highly predatory by design. Maybe going back to the old ways of chattle property over human life may be the only way to save rhinos. Mike | |||
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I have been told some of the rhino poachers they have arrested have had 375 h&h rifles professionally threaded Suppressors to handle 375h&h Barnes solids - the ones Obama banned and are still banned in the us Mike | |||
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Maybe we have to ask the question. What has more value a human life or the life of a Rhino. Isn't anyone at this paygrade can answer that question, especially in this circumstance. Maybe we need an environmental Seal Team to eliminate the marketeers then the poachers would go away but the problem would just be redirected. Too many people and a dwindling resource ! | |||
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Rhino for sure In the save. Even for hunting clients and ph and trackers. Shooting a rhino in self defense better be the last case. For outfitters in may be a business existence risk issue if they shoot a rhino in self defense. When I hunted (and will again hunt) bush pig at Mokore - we bumped into far more rhino than bush pig  Mike | |||
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Just checked with some guys in the save - the report is wrong. The save guys did not kill the poachers some else did. Mike | |||
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And if you noticed the remark, the game rangers weren't arrested. Here , if they did the shooting, would likely be self defense. Over there, in a number of places, you don't have that right, and they (police) can and will arrest you and charge you with murder, and otherwise make your life miserable. | |||
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So, if you're a poor local African sod, tempted with a payday from God, beyond your earthly imaginings, you would not go for it? Not saying it's right, just saying I understand it. Not saying they should not be stopped. But if we really want to stop this, we need to stop the paymasters of these poor bastards. The Vietnamese and the Chinese smugglers, and the corrupt African and Asian government officials who take their bribes and let it happen. But no, here in the USA, we have moronic do-gooders who attack legal hunters, and make their lives a regulatory nightmare, instead of the real perpetrators. And there you have it. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Dead right! And the morons in the West are the ones creating all this mess. If they did not campaign against African countries selling their ivory and rhino horns, we would not have a black market which opens the way for poaching. I had a meeting with a Ugandan gentleman when Europe stopped giving any money to Uganda when Uganda declared queers illegal! He said we have absolutely no say in what the West does, but they feel they have the right to dictate to us what we feel is against nature! Same thing here. Telling Africa they should not sell their animals, and at the same time creating illegal poaching. | |||
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Take the captured horn. Poison it with cyanide or there is probably something more lethal now. And put it back in the black market. Poetic justice. Might help dry up the market. | |||
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My last post should answer bentframe's question about whether I thought a rhinoceros's life was worth more than someone - anyone involved in the illegal trade of rhino horn was more important. | |||
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They know the risk. Many a man was hung for stealing a horse or rustling cattle. The rhino need to saved at all cost. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Agreed ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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