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Originally posted by Ganyana:
By the Act, Theo should loose his license and pay a US$3000 fine and Ndlovu should be fined $500-1000

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
US$3000 is alot of Money in Zim.

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
US$3000 is alot of Money in Zim. I doubt Theo has that much without Selling a couple of rifles etc.

Theo had permissionand paperwork to hunt lion on eitherside of the property where he shot it, and if nothing had come out, he would simply have marked the lion down against the quota of one of the adjacent properties and no-one would have been any the wiser.

As for Dr Carter- he had permission to hunt lion from national parks, he had the 'special' bow hunting permit. The ministers proclamations that the American should face charges where just hot air- and he knew it- to deflect attention from Ndlouvu and Sibanda ( Sibanda's client shot Another collared lion the next day under unclear circumstances).

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
US$3000 is alot of Money in Zim. I doubt Theo has that much without Selling a couple of rifles etc.

Theo had permissionand paperwork to hunt lion on eitherside of the property where he shot it, and if nothing had come out, he would simply have marked the lion down against the quota of one of the adjacent properties and no-one would have been any the wiser.

As for Dr Carter- he had permission to hunt lion from national parks, he had the 'special' bow hunting permit. The ministers proclamations that the American should face charges where just hot air- and he knew it- to deflect attention from Ndlouvu and Sibanda ( Sibanda's client shot Another collared lion the next day under unclear circumstances).

So instead of this being made public by Zimbabwe, and state that nothing was done wrong by the client, they had to jump on the bandwagon and join the ignorant outrage??

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
US$3000 is alot of Money in Zim. I doubt Theo has that much without Selling a couple of rifles etc.

Theo had permissionand paperwork to hunt lion on eitherside of the property where he shot it, and if nothing had come out, he would simply have marked the lion down against the quota of one of the adjacent properties and no-one would have been any the wiser.

As for Dr Carter- he had permission to hunt lion from national parks, he had the 'special' bow hunting permit. The ministers proclamations that the American should face charges where just hot air- and he knew it- to deflect attention from Ndlouvu and Sibanda ( Sibanda's client shot Another collared lion the next day under unclear circumstances).

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Originally posted by AilsaWheels:

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
US$3000 is alot of Money in Zim. I doubt Theo has that much without Selling a couple of rifles etc.

Theo had permissionand paperwork to hunt lion on eitherside of the property where he shot it, and if nothing had come out, he would simply have marked the lion down against the quota of one of the adjacent properties and no-one would have been any the wiser.

As for Dr Carter- he had permission to hunt lion from national parks, he had the 'special' bow hunting permit. The ministers proclamations that the American should face charges where just hot air- and he knew it- to deflect attention from Ndlouvu and Sibanda ( Sibanda's client shot Another collared lion the next day under unclear circumstances).

It doesn't look like Bronkhorst wanted to sell any of his rifles.



http://news.yahoo.com/zimbabwe...gling-193457367.html



behind Cecil lion killing arrested for smuggling



Professional Zimbabwean hunter Theo Bronkhorst leaves the Magistrate's Court in Hwange on July 29, 2015, after proceedings on poaching charges
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Professional Zimbabwean hunter Theo Bronkhorst leaves the Magistrate's Court in Hwange on July 29, 2015, after proceedings on poaching charges (AFP Photo/Zinyange Auntony)

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Bulawayo (Zimbabwe) (AFP) - The professional hunter who helped an American dentist kill Zimbabwe's popular lion Cecil has been arrested for his alleged link with an illegal operation to smuggle 29 sable antelope out of the country.



Theo Bronkhorst, 52, was arrested Monday in Zimbabwe's second largest city of Bulawayo, police said on Tuesday.

"He is facing charges of moving wild animals without a permit" and smuggling of wild animals, police spokeswoman Charity Charamba said in a statement.

The arrest came days after three South Africans were arrested and charged for trying to smuggle 29 sable -- a rare and expensive breed of antelope -- out of Zimbabwe into South Africa.

Hewitt Edwin, 49, Blignaut Hendricks Johannes, 41, and Pretorius Herbert John, 49, also face charges of illegal capture and translocation of wildlife as well as illegally crossing an international boundary, according to wildlife authorities.

Zimbabwean authorities said over the weekend the animals -- which include six calves and are valued at $384,000 (340,000 euros) -- were captured from a private conservancy in the northwestern resort town of Victoria Falls.

A friend of Bronkhorst's claimed the animals had come from Zambia and that the hunter had only helped the South Africans secure an import permit into Zimbabwe.

"The only thing where Theo was involved is he facilitated their importation into Zimbabwe," he told AFP on condition of anonymity.

"They moved them and obviously lied to him that they had an agreement to move them to some property in the West Nicholson area," he added.

West Nicholson is located roughly halfway between Bulawayo and the Beitbridge border post shared with South Africa.

Local media say the smuggling bid was discovered when the cars transporting the animals got stuck on the Limpopo River bed, which divides the two countries.

The Zimbabwean hunter was the guide during a hunt which saw American dentist Walter Palmer pay $55,000 to shoot the popular feline Cecil, with a bow and arrow in July.

The killing of the lion, who was being collared and tracked as part of an Oxford University research project, provoked outrage among animal lovers worldwide.

Bronkhorst was on a $1,000 bail pending his trial on September 28 on charges of organising an illegal hunt which led to the lion's death.

Sables are prized for their rarity and long horns, according to Peter Oberem, president of Wildlife Ranching South Africa.

"Because sable are scarce... their value is pretty high," said Oberem, speaking from Pretoria.



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Originally posted by Ganyana:
Saeed et Al- The Government has repeated the lie to itself so often that they genuinely belive thier own propoganda. I was having lunch in the Harare Club in December with the Perminat Secretary for Parks and Wildlife. He is an old friend. We did half of Highschool and all his Undergrad yeasr at University except in First year I did Geology and he did Geology. Towards the end of lunch he asked who he could speak to at the Swedish Embassy and who was the real CIA man (not the one who is openly CIA) at the American Embassy as, 'in the interts of wildlife Conservation, the Sanctions were undermining all realy worthwile programes, compunded by the fact that the Minister had an IQ somewhere between a book and a potplant

"you are not serious about the sanctions are you. They are limited and only really hurt the Old man and his right hand man who have had alot of their assets seazed and bank accounts frozen"

No ganyana, you don't understand the knock on effect- many companies will not deal with us because of the sanctions. Wheather the Company is on the black list or not, there is the perception that every Company belongs to a top ZANU-PF oficial or it is a Company owned by a black listed politician and fronted by a White guy. "Whell X - they are too often right. Wheather private land, Parks estate or Forestry Commission, a senior Politician usually holds the lease." " You are virtually alone in not grabbing a White owned farm" We had 30,000 Acres of land right next to us that was bought by Government -and paid for by the UK - in the early 1980's. X had come to me looking for unused land, and aware that Government owned some 200,000 Acres of land in Matebeleland that had never been used. X grabbed the place next to mine and promptly sold me the hunting.

"True" X conceeded "but when America and her lap dog Britain resort to the Printing press to keep their Economy going, they call it 'Qualative Easing', when we did it it was called Lunacy".

"And why Sweden" I asked, "you know what they want". "No" said X. If we knew what to do there we could make amends', Isolate Britain and get most of the remaining EU restrictions lifted."

"Sweden wants the men who murdered Stevens. They have the names, and wait for government to act. He was a Swedish Citizen, and you know that plaid out" "Oh, Well that's not going to happen. You Know the man who shot him was the commisioner of Police -Chihuri's- Son? 'yup, seen the list of all the murders and who was provably known to be involved'....and the conversation spiraled back to the effects of 'sactions'.

X is a Bright guy without any strong Loyalty to the regime and holds the post he does because he's Bright and competant. But after 15 years of constant brainwashing, even the intelligen are staring to belive the Government lies.

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:
The reason I asked in the first place is due to a false story in the form of a letter stating no charges being filed against either the PH or landowner circulating over on FaceBook. The story is reported as coming from "A friend in Zimbabwe just sent me this" and it's been floating around now for about 3 weeks. What's more is that it's being posted by guys that actually do have connections in Zim, but when questioned as to where it came from, they admit that they are just reposting something that showed up on their wall without reference to the origin.

I had mistakenly thought the trial was set for August 28th so when I saw this letter posted again on FB, I thought it best to inquire as to what happened before responding to any of the FB posts.

Just goes to show that the misinformation campaign regarding this issue continues.

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Originally posted by AilsaWheels:

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
US$3000 is alot of Money in Zim. I doubt Theo has that much without Selling a couple of rifles etc.

Theo had permissionand paperwork to hunt lion on eitherside of the property where he shot it, and if nothing had come out, he would simply have marked the lion down against the quota of one of the adjacent properties and no-one would have been any the wiser.

As for Dr Carter- he had permission to hunt lion from national parks, he had the 'special' bow hunting permit. The ministers proclamations that the American should face charges where just hot air- and he knew it- to deflect attention from Ndlouvu and Sibanda ( Sibanda's client shot Another collared lion the next day under unclear circumstances).

It doesn't look like Bronkhorst wanted to sell any of his rifles.



http://news.yahoo.com/zimbabwe...gling-193457367.html



behind Cecil lion killing arrested for smuggling



Professional Zimbabwean hunter Theo Bronkhorst leaves the Magistrate's Court in Hwange on July 29, 2015, after proceedings on poaching charges
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Professional Zimbabwean hunter Theo Bronkhorst leaves the Magistrate's Court in Hwange on July 29, 2015, after proceedings on poaching charges (AFP Photo/Zinyange Auntony)

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Bulawayo (Zimbabwe) (AFP) - The professional hunter who helped an American dentist kill Zimbabwe's popular lion Cecil has been arrested for his alleged link with an illegal operation to smuggle 29 sable antelope out of the country.



Theo Bronkhorst, 52, was arrested Monday in Zimbabwe's second largest city of Bulawayo, police said on Tuesday.

"He is facing charges of moving wild animals without a permit" and smuggling of wild animals, police spokeswoman Charity Charamba said in a statement.

The arrest came days after three South Africans were arrested and charged for trying to smuggle 29 sable -- a rare and expensive breed of antelope -- out of Zimbabwe into South Africa.

Hewitt Edwin, 49, Blignaut Hendricks Johannes, 41, and Pretorius Herbert John, 49, also face charges of illegal capture and translocation of wildlife as well as illegally crossing an international boundary, according to wildlife authorities.

Zimbabwean authorities said over the weekend the animals -- which include six calves and are valued at $384,000 (340,000 euros) -- were captured from a private conservancy in the northwestern resort town of Victoria Falls.

A friend of Bronkhorst's claimed the animals had come from Zambia and that the hunter had only helped the South Africans secure an import permit into Zimbabwe.

"The only thing where Theo was involved is he facilitated their importation into Zimbabwe," he told AFP on condition of anonymity.

"They moved them and obviously lied to him that they had an agreement to move them to some property in the West Nicholson area," he added.

West Nicholson is located roughly halfway between Bulawayo and the Beitbridge border post shared with South Africa.

Local media say the smuggling bid was discovered when the cars transporting the animals got stuck on the Limpopo River bed, which divides the two countries.

The Zimbabwean hunter was the guide during a hunt which saw American dentist Walter Palmer pay $55,000 to shoot the popular feline Cecil, with a bow and arrow in July.

The killing of the lion, who was being collared and tracked as part of an Oxford University research project, provoked outrage among animal lovers worldwide.

Bronkhorst was on a $1,000 bail pending his trial on September 28 on charges of organising an illegal hunt which led to the lion's death.

Sables are prized for their rarity and long horns, according to Peter Oberem, president of Wildlife Ranching South Africa.

"Because sable are scarce... their value is pretty high," said Oberem, speaking from Pretoria.



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Originally posted by Ganyana:
US$3000 is alot of Money in Zim. I doubt Theo has that much without Selling a couple of rifles etc.

Theo had permissionand paperwork to hunt lion on eitherside of the property where he shot it, and if nothing had come out, he would simply have marked the lion down against the quota of one of the adjacent properties and no-one would have been any the wiser.

As for Dr Carter- he had permission to hunt lion from national parks, he had the 'special' bow hunting permit. The ministers proclamations that the American should face charges where just hot air- and he knew it- to deflect attention from Ndlouvu and Sibanda/ ( Sibanda's client shot Another collared lion the next day under unclear circumstances).

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Originally posted by Heym 450/400:
No no no... He was tried and convicted right here on the Internet. Case is closed.... The Dr deserved everything that happened to him because some were upset their hunt may be in jeopardy.

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Originally posted by Heym 450/400:
Perhaps... But that info didn't come out till long after he was under the bus and everyone dug in for the fight.

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Originally posted by Heym 450/400:
Yes.. I dug in and said lets see if he's innocent or not. Few wanted to hear it. They had their rope and we're ready to hang. I assume people are innocent. Most of you presume otherwise.