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If you were going to build a semi-custom gun for use in Africa, which maker would you chose and why?
thanks

Choices:
Dakota
Hill Country Firearms
Empire
Waffenfabrik Hein Firearms
Biesen Custom Guns

 
 
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I'd choose Roger Biesen.

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Been there; done that; have multiple rifles to prove it. Big Grin

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I like them all.
 
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Originally posted by Vinny:
If you were going to build a semi-custom gun for use in Africa, which maker would you chose and why?
thanks



I would take the Express rilfe from Heym.

http://www.heym-waffenfabrik.de/english/indexeng.html


Why?
Big Magnum system completely made from best steel, with long extractor, 3 position safety, great trigger, express sights, very accurate even under bad conditions because of the special bedding.
high magazine capacity, nice bluing aginst reflections...
smooth action.
 
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I had the folks at Waffenfabrik Hein build my last rifle and they will build my next one.

Great value for the money and a tack driver as well.

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Mario
 
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Assuming I was having a bolt gun built, Like T Carr, Roger Biesen

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Hein starts with a better action than the others.


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Hein starts with a better action than the others.


Which action does Hein start with as opposed to Empire?

George


 
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They build their own actions. Next up is a mag-mauser.
 
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I really like the Lon Paul guns.


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I'm just curious why they are classed semi-custom rather than custom? It sounds to me like you are talking custom rifle. Semi custom I would consider taking a stock win70 and putting a mcmillan stock on it, changing the sights, minimal work.

I don't have any of theirs, and don't know the costs on each offhand, but I'll say that it looks pretty hard to beat the pricing of the Biesen rifles.

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Of that group which would you class as custom and which as semi custom?
 
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Originally posted by Dago Red:
I'm just curious why they are classed semi-custom rather than custom?


Not sure who coined the term "semi-custom", but it refers to large scale shops that have many options like Dakota, HS-Precision, Empire, Jarrett, Cooper, Shiloh-Sharps, Ed Brown.

You can have a lot of options put onto these rifles, but no matter what they will still be a the Dakota M76 with the same pattern stock, same barrel contour, it will still be a Dakota.

A custom rifle is the act of taking a rifle and making it suit your individual needs.

If I bought a M76 action, put a McMillan or Basner stock on it and barreled it with a fluted Hart barrel of my contour and my caliber choice, then dipped it in Titanium nitrate, and then added MY custom touches it is a custom rifle.

"Custom rifle" has nothing to do with $$$$$, but everything to do with being purpose built for one persons ideal type.

Semi-custom rifles are built in a small scale factory. Remington and Winchester Custom shop rifles are by definition semi-custom. No matter what the Custom shop does they will still be a Winchester or Remington rifle at the end of the day.
 
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Biesen will build your rifle on almost any action you supply him.

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Ok, you guys that voted for Waffenfabrick Hein Arms - what is your take on them?

Dakota - we know about them due to frequent comments on AR

Biesen - lots of history on him as a stock maker and great technician

Hill Country - uses an action you send

Empire - uses a Mauser action, some controvery on price for value

All are great, but Waffen is a bit new to me.
 
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I have one in .450 DAKOTA caliber, McMillan stock etc.
I thought I'd sell it, even though I have not even shot it yet and put the money into a 470 or 500 DR.
I can't do it, it's just to GOOD!!!!!!!!
Four round magazine, [plus one in chamber].
Unless you want a take down rifle, this is your baby.
Get the round top action, their least costly, and put the extra money into a www.talbot.us scope mounting system, check www.answerrifles.com they are huge enthusiasts of this system. Ask retreever about them he has a rifle with this mounting system and feels it's #1



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The Belgian maker :

DUMOULIN


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