The Accurate Reloading Forums
Stupid newbie question, which country looks like the Africa you think of?

This topic can be found at:
https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1411043/m/370103136

28 February 2007, 03:59
GeoffM24
Stupid newbie question, which country looks like the Africa you think of?
After watching numerous Africa shows on TV I find some of the hunts don't look how I picture Africa. Some places are too developed, others look much greener then I imagine. I wouldn't want my base camp to be in "town" or have paved roads etc.

What country has that dirt road, thatch hut, dust hot dead grass and water hole look?

Thanks!
28 February 2007, 04:07
Rusty
When I hunted in RSA the country look a lot like the Hill Country of Central Texas.
Lots of varied terrain. I don't think you'll see many "paved roads". First time you spend half a day digging the hunting buggy out of a hole, you'll know!

Just depends where you hunt.


Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member

"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
28 February 2007, 04:14
kudude
To my way of thinking: northern Namibia, Zim, Mozambique, Tanz, Bots, Zambia have this potential. I have hunted Namibia, Zim, Tanz and RSA, and you can find built up areas in all of them. You can also find very rural areas. My hunting camps in Caprivi, Zim and Tanz looked like what you described. Kudude
28 February 2007, 04:23
TheBigGuy
My $0.02.

Going anywhere new with preconceived notions on how it should be, is a recipe for disappointment.

Ask first about what is important to you.

To me it's the pleasant surprises that are the most memorable.
28 February 2007, 04:29
GeoffM24
quote:
Originally posted by TheBigGuy:
My $0.02.

Going anywhere new with preconceived notions on how it should be, is a recipe for disappointment.

Ask first about what is important to you.

To me it's the pleasant surprises that are the most memorable.


I have seen to many movies, read to many books and seen to many pictures not to have a vision of Africa in my head. Now it might not be correct but it certainly is there.
28 February 2007, 04:41
L. David Keith
Hollywood! I grew up watching the old Tarzan movies (black and white TV). I could swear that Africa looks just like the back lots of MGM...Tigers and all. jumping


Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris
http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262
Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142
Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311
Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941
10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson

Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
28 February 2007, 04:51
Aspen Hill Adventures
Geoff!

You need to go to Africa, you will find what you are looking for.


~Ann


28 February 2007, 05:12
oupa
quote:
You need to go to Africa, you will find what you are looking for.


Ann said it! Just go. When you get back you'll have a whole new idea of "what it should look like." If you truely come back disapointed in the experience it probably wouldn't matter where you'd gone.
cheers


An old man sleeps with his conscience, a young man sleeps with his dreams.
28 February 2007, 05:15
llamapacker
Geoff,
I understand your question. Its a lot like asking someone from the east coast (US) to picture hunting in the west. While some picture the high country of Wyoming, others picture mule deer in the desert southwest, and some automatically think of Alaska! The "west" can mean as many different things to people as does "Africa".

Now to me, when I read about "miles and miles of bloody Africa", I am thinking the lowveld of northern RSA or Zimbabwe. I have yet to travel to Kenya or Tanzania, but some of the "Serengeti" movies I believe are most typically represented by those areas. Even RSA is extremely diverse, and the east cape is nothing like the free state, the northern province, etc.
All are great areas, but do come with different expectations, costs and service levels. My advice is to start anywhere, and just keep going back. That has been my plan!
Good Hunting,
Bill
28 February 2007, 06:15
GeoffM24
I'm sure I'd love it anywhere I just didn't know if there was some general guide line that XYZ country is the real Africa while ABC country isn't quite as diverse etc.

llamapacker nailed it with his example.
28 February 2007, 06:27
LRH270
The dry mountains in the interior of the East Cape looked just like central Arizona, and chasing Fallow Deer in them is just like Coues hunting.


______________________

RMEF Life Member
SCI
DRSS
Chapuis 9,3/9,3 + 20/20
Simson 12/12/9,3
Zoli 7x57R/12
Kreighoff .470/.470

We band of 9,3ers!

The Few. The Pissed. The Taxpayers.

28 February 2007, 07:18
zimbabwe
As I have only hunted in Zimbabwe and live in Southern Arizona I can truthfully say it is the same. I see very little difference in Zim and Arizona. There are many sections of Zimbabwe that I can show photos of that I would swear are in Arizona. Even the vegatation seems the same. But then I have a very severe problem,I love both places.


SCI Life Member
NRA Patron Life Member
DRSS
28 February 2007, 20:37
Safari-Hunt
Does this look AFRICA enough I was there this morning at 11am when I took the pics and I was back home at 5pm. To give a clue of where it is.






Frederik Cocquyt
I always try to use enough gun but then sometimes a brainshot works just as good.
28 February 2007, 20:54
Schrodinger's Cat
Geoff, to me, you posed the very same question that I had before my first trip to Africa. I have since made two: One to Tanzania, the other Namibia. I hunted northern Tanzania and found it to meet my image of "Old Africa". I took several days and toured the Serengeti, Ngorongoro Crater, Oldavai (sp) Gorge and the Great Rift Valley. The savanna where I hunted had to be similiar to the days of Roosevelt, Hemmingway, et al and I loved it. Nambia, was a lot different. In route to our hunting camp, we passed through towns that really weren't all that different than rural towns here in the U.S. There were "7-11" and "am-pm" type stores where you get your gas and a bag of potato chips. I use an experience hunting agent, describe to him that the over-all experience is as important as the hunting. He hasn't let me down and I recommend that you obtain a knowledgable agent and do the same.
01 March 2007, 00:15
bwanamrm
quote:
What country has that dirt road, thatch hut, dust hot dead grass and water hole look?


Masailand, Tanzania in October, the Zambezi Valley, Zimbabwe in late August and the northern Luangwa Valley, Zambia in September...


On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died.

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch...
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
- Rudyard Kipling

Life grows grim without senseless indulgence.
01 March 2007, 01:50
Wise1
etosha pan
01 March 2007, 02:22
AfricanHunter
That is certainly a valid point to ask. I'll rank to as I see them for remote, wild and etc once you were out of "town". From the days of old to now as well.
CAR, Sudan (tied), Tanzania, Zambia, Kenya and now Zimbabwe. What I don't like about Zimbabwe is the fancy permanent camps. Once you are out of camp you can sure be in some wild, lonely desolate country. Then you come back to that fancy facility. Zambia had some semi permanent camps years ago, but at least they had to destroy them at season end. The first three are head and shoulders above the last three in my opinion. However, a lot of years span those experiences and they might be different in today's world!
01 March 2007, 03:54
gerrys375
GeoffM24:

I hunted only once in Africa -in 1993 - in the Chirisa safari district of Zimbabwe. I can say that I saw pasture country that reminded me of upstate NY dairy country -and I saw mesas that reminded me of the US Southwest - and I saw a scenery also that was nothing but "Africa". (You'll know what I mean when you see it) I had a tent at the end of the camp (atop a small hill) and every morning I was absolutely thrilled at the sight of the valley -and I was 63 - and supposedly used to scenery I had seen so I ain't kidding when I say I was "thrilled". Believe me, Africa will make one heck of an impression on you - where ever you may be! Go and enjoy! I'm sure that you will enjoy any part of Africa. It's a really foreign land - and nothing like what you ever saw before. Fact.