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Gentlemen: I have a possible problem that I'm sure the educated among us about firearms into South Africa can help me with. I will be in SA to hunt buffalo the first week of August and will bring my trusted .600. I plan to vacation in Zimbabwe for 10 days either before or after the hunt. The problem is this: in Zim I plan to buy an old English shotgun by Lancaster. It is pre-1899 so I don't need any BATF forms or permits to get it back into the US. I checked with customs and it is fine with them. If I go to SA first and then depart Zim for the US I can do this. However, if my plans take me to Zim first what is the process for me to take the shotgun with me to SA for my hunt and then depart for home? I won't have a 4457 form so am unsure what to do. Any of you gents have an idea? I appreciate your assistance. Cheers and a good new year to you all. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | ||
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Cal I think I recall that they allowed the original sales receipt as proof of ownership of the firearms when this all got complicated a while back. However the SAP site is not as clear as that: "A certified copy of a licence, permit, authorization or any other documentary proof confirming the lawful possession of the firearm." I'd say visiting Zim last and departing directly to the US, without staying in South Africa again, would clearly be the most efficient choice if possible. Les SAP FORMS | |||
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It seems that you will not have any problems leaving Zimbabwe with your shotgun to travel to the USA. I have little doubt that if you go to Zimbabwe first your shotgun will fit into this category - quote taken directkly from SAPS website: " Firearms entering South Africa for a period not exceeding six (6) months for the purpose of hunting, sport, self-defence, repair, law enforcement or exhibition and then taken to another country other than the country of origin wherefor an temporary import permit and additional export permit may be issued. Do yourself a favour and carefully read the SAPS webpage referenced here. SAPS Firearms import/export page Enjoy your hunt and stay! Andrew McLaren Professional Hunter and Hunting Outfitter since 1974. http://www.mclarensafaris.com The home page to go to for custom planning of ethical and affordable hunting of plains game in South Africa! Enquire about any South African hunting directly from andrew@mclarensafaris.com After a few years of participation on forums, I have learned that: One can cure: Lack of knowledge – by instruction. Lack of skills – by practice. Lack of experience – by time doing it. One cannot cure: Stupidity – nothing helps! Anti hunting sentiments – nothing helps! Put-‘n-Take Outfitters – money rules! My very long ago ancestors needed and loved to eat meat. Today I still hunt! | |||
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