This is a video message that has been prepared on behalf of DSC to address the recent media (mis)reporting around "Mopane" the lion. I commend the video to you. From my perspective this is the sort of messaging that advocates of hunting have to become more adept at. Responding to attacks in a timely way, with a fact-based response that has messaging crafted to resonate beyond the hunting community. Hopefully we will continue to see messaging addressing the rapid loss of habitat in Africa, the increasing issue of human-animal conflict, the role that hunting can play in avoiding both habitat loss and human-animal conflicts and the need for Western countries to be more deferential to the efforts of African leaders to address these issues in their own countries through hunting quotas, hunting concessions and the like.

Well done DSC . . . keep up the good work! If you agree with the message, I encourage you to share it with your friends (hunters and non-hunters), share on social media and generally help spread the word.

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Mike, Thanks for posting what I see as a solid factual and counter statement to what the antis have and continue to put out. Should be more and more clips, vids and statements like this from all the global hunting organisations!

The only criticism - and it has been said before time and time again on here and elsewhere - is the continual use of the expression "harvesting" which to me is just false. We hunt, we shoot, we take, we kill animals for many reasons. I harvest crops and vegetables not fish or game animals. However "harvest" seems to be an accepted US term nowadays so I guess here to stay.

Otherwise as said - god job IMO.

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Mike,

I received my email yesterday with the DSC clip and thought it was great.

This is something that need to be put out monthly, there is always a good message to put forth.

Waiting until, a negative comes to the front before putting out a positive hunting message is not leading the mission.

Kind of like leading from the rear, it is not a position you like to be in. It is like you already lost the battle.

DSC, SCI & NRA need to start being the leaders we expect them to be.

Bwana, I would invite you to spend some time on both the DSC and DSC Foundation web and facebook pages. I believe you will come to the conclusion that both produce an avalanche of current video messaging content addressing every issue affecting the hunting world today. And no one, no one acts faster on issues than DSC. Please check out both sites. Cheers, Dave

We are fortunate to have someone like Safari Classics and Tim and Dave working with DSC on this type of messaging. No one appreciates and understands the issues like fellow hunters. The challenge for all of us is crafting the message in a way that resonates with non-hunters, particularly the vast number of people that are neither pro- nor anti-hunting.

Well done all involved. DSC & Safari Classics…

Proud to be a Life Member of DSC and call Dave and Tim friends!

Well done Corey, DSC…

DSC and DSC Foundation!

The two organizations that are TRUE hunter's organizations.

They work tirelessly to promote hunting.

They are the FIRST FOR HUNTERS!

Well done my friends.

We are all proud of what you do.

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Bwana, I would invite you to spend some time on both the DSC and DSC Foundation web and facebook pages. I believe you will come to the conclusion that both produce an avalanche of current video messaging content addressing every issue affecting the hunting world today. And no one, no one acts faster on issues than DSC. Please check out both sites. Cheers, Dave

When was the last time you viewed or watched on, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX news do a segment from DSC, SCI and so on a story that was positive for hunting.

The above channels are more than happy to give air time to anti hunter individual or groups.

My concern is that DSC, SCI or the NRA are not getting in/on prime TV slots putting out positive messages concerning conservation so that the name undecided are able to make an informed decision. Targeting individuals that are not set in stone with their thinking.

Being a member of DSC, SCI the NRA and other organizations like DU (ducks unlimited) RMEF, TU (Trout Unlimited).

I read more good stories concerning the actions of DU & RMEF than from DSC, SCI & NRA. and they just pop up in my news feeds on my computer.

Having to go to an organizations web site to read what is going on is nice and I do that, however that is not the same as reading about the good things an organizations does in a major new paper.

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
Bwana, I would invite you to spend some time on both the DSC and DSC Foundation web and facebook pages. I believe you will come to the conclusion that both produce an avalanche of current video messaging content addressing every issue affecting the hunting world today. And no one, no one acts faster on issues than DSC. Please check out both sites. Cheers, Dave

When was the last time you viewed or watched on, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX news do a segment from DSC, SCI and so on a story that was positive for hunting.

The above channels are more than happy to give air time to anti hunter individual or groups.

My concern is that DSC, SCI or the NRA are not getting in/on prime TV slots putting out positive messages concerning conservation so that the name undecided are able to make an informed decision. Targeting individuals that are not set in stone with their thinking.

Being a member of DSC, SCI the NRA and other organizations like DU (ducks unlimited) RMEF, TU (Trout Unlimited).

I read more good stories concerning the actions of DU & RMEF than from DSC, SCI & NRA. and they just pop up in my news feeds on my computer.

Having to go to an organizations web site to read what is going on is nice and I do that, however that is not the same as reading about the good things an organizations does in a major new paper.

Curious, how many of your friends and associates, particularly non-hunters, have you emailed this video to along with a note urging them to watch it because the media reports only tell part of the story? If you do the social media thing, have you shared it? The questions are largely rhetorical and I am not asking to be critical or cute, I am simply making the point that the job is not just DSC’s or Safari Classic’s, it is incumbent on all of us to take the tools made available to us and use those tools to share the message. If you have done so, great, thank you. If you haven’t, please consider doing so. It is our collective challenge and opportunity.

I had a related thread up all day and just posted the same link. Appreciate you sharing, Mike.

Agree that this direct type of timely messaging is what we need more of.

This video sheds light on what isn’t reported by the MSM, but yes, it’s only viewed by us or other like minded individuals.

One of the best things that did reach MSM was years ago regarding the “Three Amigos.” It featured how the Dama Gazelle, Scimitar Horned Oryx, and the Addax had been up listed under CITES or USFW. The reason was that they were pretty much gone from their native homes, but thrive in Texas. The ranchers who raised them were forced with a terrible choice.

Unfortunately, I can’t find the video online. DSC led the fight and won. In the video, there was a representative from HSUS who said something like she would rather see them go extinct before allowing them to be hunted. She had a wild and crazy face!

I believe it was Lara Logan who did the piece. She’s a South African who went into it open minded. She’s also one that covered many conflicts and was secularly assaulted in Libya when that situation went tits up during the Arab Spring.

If anyone can find that video, I’d love to see it again.

Excellent.

Some nits to pick on the production, however, and no offense intended:

We didn’t need the slow-talking, southern-accented talking head. Too hard for most English speakers to understand, and too distracting from the message.

Also, pure video imagery, with a James Earl Jones sounding narrator telling the story and making the points, would have crushed it. Even Fess Parker sounding.

If we are marketing, we need to pay attention to such things.

Otherwise, we are not marketing.

Feel free to fire away.

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Excellent.

Some nits to pick on the production, however, and no offense intended:

We didn’t need the slow-talking, southern-accented talking head. Too hard for most English speakers to understand, and too distracting from the message.

Also, pure video imagery, with a James Earl Jones sounding narrator telling the story and making the points, would have crushed it. Even Fess Parker sounding.

If we are marketing, we need to pay attention to such things.

Otherwise, we are not marketing.

Feel free to fire away.

Corey is more than qualified to speak on the matter. Also, it’s a lot cheaper than our dues going to someone reading a script.

http://dscnewscenter.org/2017/...-executive-director/

Just be glad it wasn’t Mahoney. He’s also very qualified, but comes across in a different way.

Good job to Dave, Tim, Corey, DSC and the Sporting Classics crews.

How do you get this through Main Stream Media.

If only AR, African Hunter, 24 Hr Campfire see it, then no one sees it.

Also, how do you package it, so an independent body or professional is delivering the message.

These are the questions we must resolve.

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How do you get this through Main Stream Media.

If only AR, African Hunter, 24 Hr Campfire see it, then no one sees it.

Also, how do you package it, so an independent body or professional is delivering the message.

These are the questions we must resolve.

The idiots running the mainstream won't show it.

It goes against what they are falsely pushing!

I have seen Glock commercials on MSNBC. All it takes is money.

Joe Roogan and Steve Renalli have been very vocal against African hunting because they are uneducated.

Get this discussion on Roogan’s show.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
How do you get this through Main Stream Media.

If only AR, African Hunter, 24 Hr Campfire see it, then no one sees it.

Also, how do you package it, so an independent body or professional is delivering the message.

These are the questions we must resolve.

Therein lies the problem.

Who are the faces that advocate for us? They will jump on Col. Boddington just like Corey above. They will say crap about how he wasn’t really a general, the jump on his BK issues selling his used clothes.

Shockey is a good guy, but they will say he’s a Canadian.

The Nuge, well, he’s the Nuge.

We have all seen how the NRA leadership has created a cluster. Charlton Heston was a good spokesman, but we can’t raise him from the grave.

Corey presented a good message and I appreciate what he did. I’m obviously a strong advocate of DSC and will be until I see otherwise.

I’m also an advocate of Park Cities Quail ( https://www.parkcitiesquail.org/ ) They have recognized people known around the world as leaders in conservation, and just not quail. Tom Brokaw and George Strait are a few honorees who have worldwide appeal. Ted Turner and Boone Pickens are, or should be known worldwide. Unfortunately, Mr. Pickens is no longer with us.

Is Tom Brokaw a hunter? George Strait is and would be good as would Tom Selleck.

And…what is wrong with a Texas drawl??? I take offense to that.

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Is Tom Brokaw a hunter? George Strait is and would be good as would Tom Selleck.

And…what is wrong with a Texas drawl??? I take offense to that.

Many hunters would rather not advertise it.

You will be amazed if you knew who comes over here to shoot, and asks fir it not to be published!

Very big names.

I cannot blames them, as their livelihoods are at steak.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Is Tom Brokaw a hunter? George Strait is and would be good as would Tom Selleck.

And…what is wrong with a Texas drawl??? I take offense to that.

Many hunters would rather not advertise it.

You will be amazed if you knew who comes over here to shoot, and asks fir it not to be published!

Very big names.

I cannot blames them, as their livelihoods are at steak.

In a way I do blame them a bit. Not to the point that I fault them or anything. But…the fact that they behave in such a matter is surrendering to the enemy.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Is Tom Brokaw a hunter? George Strait is and would be good as would Tom Selleck.

And…what is wrong with a Texas drawl??? I take offense to that.

Many hunters would rather not advertise it.

You will be amazed if you knew who comes over here to shoot, and asks fir it not to be published!

Very big names.

I cannot blames them, as their livelihoods are at steak.

In a way I do blame them a bit. Not to the point that I fault them or anything. But…the fact that they behave in such a matter is surrendering to the enemy.

I was told once by a guy I knew causally that he shot live pigeons with Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks. I have zero reason to doubt what he said. I don’t think either would shout that from the rooftops.

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
Bwana, I would invite you to spend some time on both the DSC and DSC Foundation web and facebook pages. I believe you will come to the conclusion that both produce an avalanche of current video messaging content addressing every issue affecting the hunting world today. And no one, no one acts faster on issues than DSC. Please check out both sites. Cheers, Dave

When was the last time you viewed or watched on, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX news do a segment from DSC, SCI and so on a story that was positive for hunting.

The above channels are more than happy to give air time to anti hunter individual or groups.

My concern is that DSC, SCI or the NRA are not getting in/on prime TV slots putting out positive messages concerning conservation so that the name undecided are able to make an informed decision. Targeting individuals that are not set in stone with their thinking.

Being a member of DSC, SCI the NRA and other organizations like DU (ducks unlimited) RMEF, TU (Trout Unlimited).

I read more good stories concerning the actions of DU & RMEF than from DSC, SCI & NRA. and they just pop up in my news feeds on my computer.

Having to go to an organizations web site to read what is going on is nice and I do that, however that is not the same as reading about the good things an organizations does in a major new paper.

Curious, how many of your friends and associates, particularly non-hunters, have you emailed this video to along with a note urging them to watch it because the media reports only tell part of the story? If you do the social media thing, have you shared it? The questions are largely rhetorical and I am not asking to be critical or cute, I am simply making the point that the job is not just DSC’s or Safari Classic’s, it is incumbent on all of us to take the tools made available to us and use those tools to share the message. If you have done so, great, thank you. If you haven’t, please consider doing so. It is our collective challenge and opportunity.

Mike, Very good question.

Here is what I have been doing for the past 10+ years. Actually, it has been longer than that.

I purchase memberships to SCI, DSC, NRA, DU & RMEF for hunting and non hunting family and friends. Some are for 1 year and others are for 3 year membership.

Also, I purchase magazines subscriptions for family and friends.

As for passing the video clip, some times I do that and other times I do not.

Most of my magazines are cascaded to friends who do not subscribe to them.

I do have a few liberal friends who would like to tag along with me on my next journey to Africa. So some of what I am doing is changing some thinking. They would like to go just to see what is really happening in Africa. This is something that they would not do on their own.

That is the small things that I have been doing or have done.

Cheers

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This video sheds light on what isn’t reported by the MSM, but yes, it’s only viewed by us or other like minded individuals.

The fact that it is only viewed by us or other like minded individuals is in some ways our fault is it not. We all know people that are either anti-hunting or are ambivalent towards hunting. If we are not sharing this information with them and inviting them into a conversation about the subject, then we really have no one to blame but ourselves for the inability to spread the message at a grassroots level. I am not suggesting that grassroots efforts to spread the message should be the only focus and we should ignore the media, but I am suggesting that since we are the grassroots, we have to partially own the failure of the message to spread at that level.

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And…what is wrong with a Texas drawl??? I take offense to that.

No shit! I prefer a Texas drawl to any Yankee accent any day. Especially one dropping all R's.
Just sayin!



Good job DSC and Dave / Tim.

One of the priorities of DSC is to indeed MAKE AVAILABLE our content to mainstream media organizations.In fact,they are regularly fed our content,especially when there is breaking news, like the Mopane nonsense. Safari Classics was not in place as the DSC content creator when the game changing Cecil debacle hit the globe. If we had been, immediate action and counter messaging would have been created and distributed within 48 hours, if not 24 hours. As it has been pointed out, most mainstream media is not jumping at the opportunity to tell the pro, or Conservation Through Hunting side of the debate. But make no mistake, we make it available, and make DSC CEO Corey Mason available for editorial, or on air interviews. We have had more takers for this offer overseas than at home in the US believe it or not. Corey has no Hollywood background, voice coach, or formal broadcast credentials. What he DOES have is an acute sense of honesty, a firm grasp of the issues that affect our industry, a background as a certified wildlife biologist, and a industry wide respect from those who have worked with him. And none more than myself. Corey has no ego, nor the all too common " Look at me" persona so common in our game. He serves DSC, it's members, and our industry to the very best of his ability and with a work ethic next to none. James Earl Jones?...NO. But sincerity? Absolutely! If I paid James Earl Jones to voice it, there is no doubt it would be powerful. But is powerful voice by a PAID ACTOR better than a HONEST FACT BASED presentation from an actual authority on the subject? Not in my book. For those of you who watched and SHARED THE NAME GAME, a sincere Thank You.

Folks...the video and effort is good but the problem is that people in the west care for lion but dont give a rats ass about dead africans..

Thanks for posting Mike and thank you Dave, Tim and DSC for all your hard work!

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Is Tom Brokaw a hunter? George Strait is and would be good as would Tom Selleck.

And…what is wrong with a Texas drawl??? I take offense to that.

Many hunters would rather not advertise it.

You will be amazed if you knew who comes over here to shoot, and asks fir it not to be published!

Very big names.

I cannot blames them, as their livelihoods are at steak.

In a way I do blame them a bit. Not to the point that I fault them or anything. But…the fact that they behave in such a matter is surrendering to the enemy.

I was told once by a guy I knew causally that he shot live pigeons with Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks. I have zero reason to doubt what he said. I don’t think either would shout that from the rooftops.

When I lived in Houston, I was very good friends with a guy that made shotgun chokes . We shot live pigeons in a club. It was amazing at times the people you saw at those races.

This is where Facebook and Instagram play an important part?

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Is Tom Brokaw a hunter? George Strait is and would be good as would Tom Selleck.

And…what is wrong with a Texas drawl??? I take offense to that.

Many hunters would rather not advertise it.

You will be amazed if you knew who comes over here to shoot, and asks fir it not to be published!

Very big names.

I cannot blames them, as their livelihoods are at steak.

In a way I do blame them a bit. Not to the point that I fault them or anything. But…the fact that they behave in such a matter is surrendering to the enemy.

I was told once by a guy I knew causally that he shot live pigeons with Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks. I have zero reason to doubt what he said. I don’t think either would shout that from the rooftops.

When I lived in Houston, I was very good friends with a guy that made shotgun chokes . We shot live pigeons in a club. It was amazing at times the people you saw at those races.

Briley?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r9-WeNXzTQ


DCS Member,

Here is the video, it was a "60 Minutes" story.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r9-WeNXzTQ


DCS Member,

Here is the video, it was a "60 Minutes" story.

You’re the best!

The 7:00-8:00 mark in the above video is the one DCS referred to. It is one of the most honest telling moments I believe I have ever seen in American Journalism, good find Kathi

I dont have an answer for main stream media.

I can tell you this.

My sisters 4 kids are from 17 to 25. They dont watch MSM. They get all there news from social media and the web. I think its very important for people who do social media to put this stuff out there.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/...-who-killed-25235183


Hunter got tracked down by reporter regarding lion hunt.

"Although black-maned Mopane had a dangerous reputation when young, fatherhood had settled him."

Ridiculous. Cheap, low-hanging fruit of anthropomorphy. Bings in the dollars, though.

I applaud DSC for this effort! There needs to be much more done along these lines to educate the public and social media is the driving force. I was personally harassed over Cecil when I was working with Jimba Safaris to the point that I had my own FBI agent assigned to my family to deal with all the death threats. While this is a good start the only way to combat this misinformation about hunting and the benefits derived from the sport for the game itself and local populations is through consistently pushing back on social media something not happening consistently. Some of you may recall that just last year Wayne and I once again became targets for the antis when Jimba and booked a lion hunt at Malindi. Both of us were attacked mercilessly including having my adult children called here in the USA and harassed. I work with Martin Pieters now promoting Matetsi which aslo has consistently drawn the weirdos ire. This being said I know for a fact that when a hunt is booked anywhere around Hwange the whistle blowing starts immediately from people operating camps in the park. One of the crazy people who called me last year stated clearly that individuals at The Hide Camp in Hwange had given her my details and encouraged her to attack me. Anyone who knows anything knows the money made by eco tourists in Hwange does not cover operating cost, the leasing of land around the park and subsequent trophy fees pay the parks bills not The Hide or any other internal camp. Zimbabwe should push back more and all the hunting organizations should as well. It's also of note that even amongst all the online forums there's not a real desire to push back. I know this because I was banned from AH for publicly asking for help in pushing back against an individual that was consistently attacking me and my family. I simply asked that members write to a certain email and explain how they were wrong. Jerome doesn't care about anything but money so rather than do the right thing he acted in a way that kept AH out of the subject. Sad and the reason I don't recommend anyone use AH.

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"Although black-maned Mopane had a dangerous reputation when young, fatherhood had settled him."

Ridiculous. Cheap, low-hanging fruit of anthropomorphy. Bings in the dollars, though.

Yes, I heard he started wearing ascots and smoking a pipe too. Funny what age does to a man…or lion…