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Please forgive me if I have missed this somewhere in all the threads and comments ... but with these wingnuts threatening to kill Mr. Palmer ... how is that legal ???

Shouldn't they be charged with making 'death threats' or ????
 
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Its a felony here in Georgia.


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The person that is receiving the threats just needs to identify said person and file a formal ex parte restraining order to that persons county court house and start a paper trail


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I bet nothing is going to be done about it.


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The problem with the "restraining order"approach is that they already did it, so it does not matter if they are restrained from doing it again. Second, with social media it's impossible to find out who they are. Third, you spend your own money. Saeed is right.


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It probably depends on how credible the threats are. You've probably said "I'll kill you" to your spouse, kids or friends in a moment of anger with no real intention of carrying through with it. Would that be considered illegal?

The sadistic ramblings of a deranged lunatic on a forum board probably wouldn't be considered a credible threat. If the threats were taken to the next level, such as personally confronting or harassing Dr. Palmer, that's a different matter.


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The person that is receiving the threats just needs to identify said person and file a formal ex parte restraining order to that persons county court house and start a paper trail



It might be entertaining if Dr. Palmer had a VPO served on Piers Morgan while he is on the air.
 
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I frankly don't agree. There is a electronic trail to everyone who posts on the web and don't for a minute think you can't be tracked down. Anyone stupid enough to make death threats on the web should and can be immediately flagged and ID'd . Law enforcement should interview them proactively and decide if further action is indicated. I would take death threats of any kind extremely seriously and take any and all appropriate actions against these people including hiring folks who can track them. You have no idea what's really going thru their minds, but you can bet they are somewhat or totally deranged! What better signal does society need!


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Death threats or even threats of violence are illegal in most parts of the world and if the sender can be identified and he/she pretty much always can, the threat can be forwarded to the police in that country.

Even an insulting/abusive email can be sent to the ISP of the sender because they have broken their contract rules and it's not uncommon for rhw ISP to cut off their internet service.






 
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I've seen hunters taunt and threaten the anti's and I've seen the anti's taunt and threaten the hunters. I've seen this mostly posted on social media. Social media sucks because it allows anybody to step up and say stupid shit
 
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Has it ever occurred to anyone that we need an organization who researches these threats and see that they get prosecuted?
 
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I used to receive at least one death threat a year during the nearly thirty years when I wrote outdoor columns for our daily newspaper. This was long before email. They came in phone calls or unsigned letters, usually immediately after I had published a photo of hunters with dead animals.

The most frightening threat I ever received came in an envelope filled with photos of me, my wife and daughter, and our home and cars. The letter that came with the photos rambled on both sides of three or four pages and had multiple sketches showing the three of us stabbed and shot. The obviously insane freak who sent this to me apparently was pissed because I had written a eulogy to a local taxidermist.

The first year or so, I took each threat to the police (if I received the threat at the newspaper), our county sheriff (if it came to my home) and to the post office when a threat came by letter. I eventually stopped wasting my time.

I was told there was no way to track a letter from an anonymous kook, and there was nothing law enforcement could do until someone actually tried to attack us.

In that case, I was told, my family and I could not be protected if someone really wanted to do us harm.

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I suppose it depends on the jurisdiction, but making "terroristic threats" is a felony in Georgia.

I personally know a person who sent a text message to someone who lived 6 hours away, threatening to beat him up. Police came and grabbed the sender up and threw him in jail.

Didn't matter that the text was sent while the guy was drunk, or that there was no way he could have carried out the threat expeditiously. A threat is a threat.

Terroristic threats carry a five-year sentence in GA. The guy is still in jail--no bail allowed--waiting to be sentenced.


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We need to try and bring these people making the threats out in the open.Even posting pictures of them here is a step forward.Let us identify the and show hunters who is making the threats against them.
 
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I'm amazed by the level of hate directed at some hunters for participating and being successful in a legal hobby. Another thing is the selective outrage some people exhibit when certain people are threatened with bodily harm or death, but others, such as hunters, are okay. There are plenty of people doing things I find objectionable, but threatening them is not something I would ever contemplate. As far as the legality of threatening someone, try doing that to an elected official and see what happens.
 
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Most Facebook users are not anonymous

Text a girlfriend or an ex-wife "I'm going to kill you" and all she has to do is show that text to the court house and you will get a visit from the sheriff that day!!

Happened to a buddy of mine having women trouble

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According to several deputies with the Pasco County sheriff, it's legal in Florida as long as you don't have the means to do it IMMEDIATELY. In other words, if you're not within sight, you can do it via phone or Internet. I had a tenant leave a voicemail threatening to shoot me, PCSO said no crime.
 
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The person that is receiving the threats just needs to identify said person and file a formal ex parte restraining order to that persons county court house and start a paper trail



It might be entertaining if Dr. Palmer had a VPO served on Piers Morgan while he is on the air.


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Hypothetically, if someone threatens to kill me over the internet, meaning that they could take me out at any time, am I not justified in seeking them out and eliminating the threat ... (again, hypothetically).
 
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It's called a terroristic threat and it's a crime in most jurisdictions, including my home State of Texas. What I generally do when I get one is ask for confirmation that they would like me dead, so I can print it and save it in the unlikely event they are serious and they wind up dead if I have to defend myself. I generally don't get a response.

In more serious cases, when people try not to be identified, I've hired a PI and called the wife of the perp and asked her to look out her front window to see if there is a [describe the sedan}. Then I ask if it just left. Never had another problem after that routine.
 
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Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
I've seen hunters taunt and threaten the anti's and I've seen the anti's taunt and threaten the hunters. I've seen this mostly posted on social media. Social media sucks because it allows anybody to step up and say stupid shit


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Thing is, if you look at it logically, even if it is illegal it is a nightmare to enforce. You better have DEEP pockets to proceed against every threat in this sort of situation. If you want the authorities to handle it you guys would need another cost efficient enforcement bureaucracy the size of the DHS (sarcasm) to follow up on all of the threats made in social media............ and that might not even be big enough. You are talking hundreds of thousands of threats, probably every day.

And lets not forget that the threats can be coming from countries all over the globe.

I have found that the most effective method of getting in their onions is to do as recommended by Shakari. Internet providers do not take kindly to this sort of behaviour.


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