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Giant Sable update with pics.
11 September 2009, 21:56
shakariGiant Sable update with pics.
Folks,
I've just received this from my friend and neighbour Dr Jeremy Anderson and thought you might be interested.
Jeremy's website is to be found at
http://www.ics-consulting.co.za/Greetings Steve,
As you now know. The Giant sable is not extinct. In a conservation programme championed by Pedro vaz Pinto, a breeding enclosure of 400ha has been erected in Cangandala National park in Angola and a good nucleus of animals have been captured and stocked into it. This will prevent the problem with the Cangandala cows producing hybrid calves with roan bulls.
There has been a bit of misinformation about this capture operation and it is important that this is set right. You mentioned a hunting website and I ask whether it would be possible for us to get a short description of the project and some photos onto this. I shall write a short note for your website as well.
The bull is the one brought in from Laundo Reserve. This is how the animals we brought in from the field.
Regards
Jeremy
11 September 2009, 22:05
reddy375Dont mean to sound like a wise ass, but is it good for them to be hung upside down like that by their feet and flown around!
11 September 2009, 22:20
shakariThey're unconcious and don't know it's happening. It's also fairly common game capture practice with even fairly large species.
11 September 2009, 22:29
L. David KeithThanks for posting Steve. It's good to see someone trying to save them as a species. I wish them great success.
Cheers,
David
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11 September 2009, 22:37
shakariJeremy's company is one of the very best in the world at what they do and some of the projects they get involved in are truly fascinating and incredibly worthwhile........ sadly, funding and facilities etc are often an issue with a lot of these projects though.
11 September 2009, 22:41
AzizThanks for posting the information Steve. I hope the conservation project is a success; it would be a shame to lose the Giant Sable.
Aziz
12 September 2009, 00:22
DLSThat's great news. I too wondered about them hanging the animals upside down by their feet, but I guess they know what they're doing from what Steve says.
Hope to see them build back to healthy herd numbers.
12 September 2009, 00:23
BrettAKSCISable tetherball anyone?
Nice pics thanks for sharing.
Brett
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12 September 2009, 00:41
shakariquote:
Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:
Sable tetherball anyone?
Nice pics thanks for sharing.
Brett
Just think, if you had two choppers, you could have a game of Hughes helicopter conkers.
In case you colonial philistines don't know what a game of conkers is
:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conkers
12 September 2009, 00:52
KathiThanks for posting.
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12 September 2009, 00:52
Use Enough GunGreat Sable! I like the red paint on the horns!
12 September 2009, 01:20
shakariquote:
Originally posted by Use Enough Gun:
Great Sable! I like the red paint on the horns!
They paint the horns whilst the animal is unconcious so that it can be identified from the air as previously darted/caught.
Clever huh?
12 September 2009, 06:45
Peterquote:
game of conkers
Ah! Brings back memories! Unfortunately I know only too well the effects of having my conker hit with a baked one! Takes away all the romance of the British sense of fair play.
Peter.
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12 September 2009, 13:51
shakariquote:
Originally posted by Peter:
quote:
game of conkers
Ah! Brings back memories! Unfortunately I know only too well the effects of having my conker hit with a baked one! Takes away all the romance of the British sense of fair play.
Peter.
I've gotta ask. Where on earth did someone from Jacksonville Florida learn about the noble art of conkers?
12 September 2009, 13:51
HendrikNZThanks for posting Steve.
Best of luck for the program!!
12 September 2009, 14:05
reddy375The Campfire club in NY has two Giant sable trophies. They are a site to behold.
12 September 2009, 17:27
BoghossianAny pictures of a sable/roan hybrid?
12 September 2009, 17:34
shakariI don't have any but there may be some around somewhere. I'll try to find out though.
12 September 2009, 18:15
InácioAbout Palanca Real, (the name in Portuguese) to see these photos:
Most of the World was charged in October 1949, Hunter was the Earl of Yebes (conde de Yebes)
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7804/76833182.png The same animal, which can be seen in the museum of Madrid
http://img26.imageshack.us/i/17palanca.png/Inácio
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12 September 2009, 18:38
john eHat's off to the guys supporting this effort!
Thanks for keeping reminding everyone that hunters are the true conservationist.
Cheers!
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12 September 2009, 18:52
shakariThe project still has a looong way to go and stil needs a lot more financing before the species is saved, so if anyone knows of where additional funding may be available please do feel free to contact Jeremy via his website.
12 September 2009, 21:41
Peterquote:
I've gotta ask. Where on earth did someone from Jacksonville Florida learn about the noble art of conkers?
I was raised in England. Spent 26 years there. elementary school, grammar school, university and worked for a few years before coming to the States on a graduate fellowship. I just returned from a 10 day visit there to see my sister, relatives, college friends, family grave etc. There IS something about that place!
Peter.
PS. While there I saw England win the Ashes (on TV) and also saw the All Blacks beat the Aussies in some "Tri Nation" or Tri Country Rugby match. The Haka is something else!
Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong;
13 September 2009, 01:35
huskyThe Sable isn't flying up side down...
-he is bungy jumping
08 October 2009, 22:10
only.375H&HYes there are. I will try to post them through Bill Campbell during the weekend.
Roberto
quote:
Originally posted by shakari:
I don't have any but there may be some around somewhere. I'll try to find out though.
Work to live...live to Hunt....
09 October 2009, 04:39
Bill CHere are the pictures of the sable/roan hybrids as forwarded to me by Roberto:
Hybrid Bull
Hybrid Adult Female
Hybrid Young & Sable Mother
10 October 2009, 09:18
safari-lawyerGood God! I gasped when I saw that Sable hung from its feet. It may be done that way all the time, but that's a GIANT SABLE MAN! Surely someone can buy a sling like is used for aerial transport of livestock. I'm good for the first $100.
Will J. Parks, III
10 October 2009, 16:11
Winkquote:
Originally posted by Inácio:
About Palanca Real, (the name in Portuguese) to see these photos:
Most of the World was charged in October 1949, Hunter was the Earl of Yebes (conde de Yebes)
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7804/76833182.png The same animal, which can be seen in the museum of Madrid
http://img26.imageshack.us/i/17palanca.png/Inácio
If someone wants to develop an AR trivial pursuit game, here's some information which could come in handy: the famous "Meditations on Hunting" by Ortega y Gasset was in fact first published as a prologue to the book "Veinte Anos de Caza Mayor" by Conde de Yebes, whose full name is Eduardo Figueroa y Alonso Martinez. 1700 copies of the book were re-edited by Ediciones Al Andalus. There must still be some available since last year I bought number 872.
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10 October 2009, 19:31
ACRecurvequote:
Originally posted by reddy375:
Dont mean to sound like a wise ass, but is it good for them to be hung upside down like that by their feet and flown around!
quote:
Originally posted by CAelknuts:
That's great news. I too wondered about them hanging the animals upside down by their feet, but I guess they know what they're doing from what Steve says.
Hope to see them build back to healthy herd numbers.
quote:
Originally posted by safari-lawyer:
Good God! I gasped when I saw that Sable hung from its feet. It may be done that way all the time, but that's a GIANT SABLE MAN! Surely someone can buy a sling like is used for aerial transport of livestock. I'm good for the first $100.
This mode of transport is safe over the short haul. The problem areas are the lower legs and the lungs. The lower legs can be protected with proper cuffs. The lungs are at risk because of the inverted position. They are relatively small, compared to the abdominal contents. The shape of the diaphragm allows much of the weight of the abdominal organs and ingesta to put pressure on the largest parts of the lung fields…resulting in problems with both blood perfusion and oxygenation. However, over the short haul, this is a very safe transport method.
Good hunting,
Andy
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