Our government in its own wisdom has cancelled all hunting for Zambian citizens. Hunting for foreigners is still open although for how long is anyones guess..Unfortunately this has created a very bitter us and them scenario with a lot of racial sentiments coming through. Sincerely hope government knows what they are doing.

Typical bloody Africa....... No matter what you gave them or what they had, they'll find a way to stuff it up.

Hope it works out for you.

Hello Zambian

Thats bad news.........what would the reasoning be?? First it was Kenya in the old days banning hunting, now Bots, who is next??

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Sincerely hope government knows what they are doing.

Where and when was this announced?

Zambia is a hunting nation and there will be a national outcry.

This is not good. We need confirmation and details.

Folks,

Let's not misunderstand. Zambia is not closing to hunting. Zambian said it was closing to resident hunters. I've asked for a confirmation from the Du Plooys.

Mark

am not able to find anything on line to verify what was posted.

Just would like to check the story out...

Closing to resident hunters, but still open to resident poachers.

Clarification closed only to citizens not safari hunters i.e. foreigners

Bwana Fairgame, there has been an outcry ads put into the daily and post but it seems that our madam minister is to important to respond.Long story cut short Zawa held a draw that was very transparent and sold permits but on the same day cancelled all hunting.
Lot of rumours (not good) about the upcoming granting of concessions some local businessmen already boasting about the areas their newly formed companies have been promised etc....Oh and not to forget the duty free VX cruisers that are on order under the guise of tourism..
really sickned by all this

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Originally posted by zambian:
Clarification closed only to citizens not safari hunters i.e. foreigners

Bwana Fairgame, there has been an outcry ads put into the daily and post but it seems that our madam minister is to important to respond.Long story cut short Zawa held a draw that was very transparent and sold permits but on the same day cancelled all hunting.
Lot of rumours (not good) about the upcoming granting of concessions some local businessmen already boasting about the areas their newly formed companies have been promised etc....Oh and not to forget the duty free VX cruisers that are on order under the guise of tourism..
really sickned by all this

Zambian,

Thanks for the clarification, but the ban of resident hunting will not wash in Zambia and there are far too many citizens and residents for who this is a country privilege. I am certain the situation will be reversed.

Your other concerns would better be bought to the attention of the press where it can be voiced to the people.

Below from Muchinga Adventures today.

Dear Mark

At the moment it has been cancelled - this is for the Zambian hunters and not the international safari hunters. Resident hunting has been a priveledge for the Zambian people, they get given a quota of certain animals at a reduced fee.

Resident hunting has been severely abused over the years. In this case it seems a few have created problems for the majority who are genuine hunters. This type of local hunting licence has been used as a front to do illegal safaris for foreign hunters at reduced fees with no tax or revenue going back to the Government, no funds going into the wellfare of the community or the conservation of the hunting block. There have been complaints of people chasing animals with vehicles, wounding them and not endorsing them on the licence so they can shoot another one, or not endorsing their licences so they can return and shoot more.

I dont know the reason behind the closure but if it's for the Government to put in measures to reduce the abuses that have been going on it can only benefit the wildlife and the country in the long run.

Kind regards
Laura

Sounds like an over reaction from the government.

If some are abusing the privilege, THEY should be punished, not the whole hunting community!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Sounds like an over reaction from the government.

If some are abusing the privilege, THEY should be punished, not the whole hunting community!

Quite right.

i'll bet that if the govt. would charge forgeign hunters trophy fees that it'd fix that problem quick. it seems like it's all about themoney everywhere all the time

I can't even imagine how pissed off I'd be if I was a Zambian resident.

There would be a revolution in Wyoming if non-residents could hunt but residents couldn't!

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Originally posted by SBT:
I can't even imagine how pissed off I'd be if I was a Zambian resident.

There would be a revolution in Wyoming if non-residents could hunt but residents couldn't!

I think your scenearion is a bit off. It does not say that residents "can't" hunt, only that residents can't hunt at the "resident" fees.

In other words, if a resident wants to hunt he can. But he would have to pay the standard foreigner rates.

Very, very few Zambian citizens can afford the regular safari rates, so this would effectively end hunting for them.

I have been to Zambia many times and even lived there for a summer. I can attest that it is a wonderful county. The last time I was there the forward thinking president(Mwanawasa) died as I was leaving. I can remember that everyone, including me, was filled with gloom and doom.

I guess our fears are coming true.

First time I hear the residents are getting hammered and the non-residents are not. Not good for anyone.

let ZAWA arrest those who are breaking the law. ZAWA is like a headless chicken and in a total mess.
First ZAWA advertised in the national press for resident hunters to start buying the application forms, then they stopped selling them. ZAWA then readvertised. Application forms were sold and the raffle was held. Now resident hunting has been cancelled at the last minute!
The majority of resident hunters are not poachers. In Zambia poaching is being carried out by sophisticated gangs who are making alot of money by selling the meat and trophies, but hardly has anyone been arrested.These guys will continue carrying on their business with impunity.

Zambian

Thank your for the information. It appears that the Zambian government is lacking the ability to stop poaching.

The law will not stop poaching and probably will only increase poaching, when this hunting ban takes place. As many of the locals will now poach to sustain there life style.

It has been confirmed now... apparently the zambian citizen hunter is toothless according to our minister and that we must go through the safari operators to hunt all well and good but a handful of zambians will be able to afford this..
Bottom line if you have the bucks you are ok..
Am watching what happens with the upcoming safari concession granting have bad feeling its not going to be fair I know a lot of the players. Fingers crossed for stand up guys like Johnny/andrew/mike/bell-cross to name a few hope it goes well for them.
Personally it sickens me that the government of Zambia can dance to the tune of a few bad eggs..on the bright side am very fortunate and am still able to hunt on game ranches not only in Zambia but some in South Africa also.In fact am on my way with permission/gift of kudu,warthog and Impala.
Maybe i SHOULD MIGRATE???????
for the record 500 poachers were pardoned late last year as it was deemed that they were only trying to feed themselves the evidence in the bush and the availibility of dried/smoked meat in town paints a totally differant picture.

If it wasn't for the efforts, both financially and physically put in by outfitters to contain poaching in their concessions, someone would be left with high hopes waiting for the govt. to resolve the poaching problem.

"Open access" or public resources are unfortunately almost always very difficult to manage effectively in African countries.

Zimbabwe lost all of its 'citizen' hunting areas in 1999. Three (Tuli, Rifa and uMfurudzi) had been well run by the Zimbabwe Hunters Association. Makuti and Charara were administered by parks who sold the camps by tender - to locals only- but there were alot for foreign nationals hunting in camps bought by 'friends'.

The then Director of National Parks - Willas Makombe didn't like the ZHA and used the excuse of foreigners hunting in Makuti/Charara to close all citizen hunting on the national parks estate.

Following the farm invasions the various ex citizen areas were dished out to 'new entrants' to the industry and in 2002 locals were no longer permitted to bid on the auction hunts in Nyakasanga or Sapi unless they could pay in hard currency and prove that they held said hard currency legally.

To be fair, the majority of people buying hunting camps on the tender were farmers who the government had especially chosen to disenfranchise. In the ZHA administered areas 90% of the hunting was by whites and the remainder was 'tribally' connected blacks who wanted to maintain their hunting heratige- but they wee the 'wrong' blacks- belonging to the minority Ndebele tribe so shutting down the ZHA's hunting certainly didn't harm the governments popularity amongst their supporters (and the Whites and Mateble were never going to vote ZANU) so it made alot more sence to give those areas over to the party faithful to earn US$ and help sustain party activities.

I don't actually think anybody has ever really had the wealfare of the game to heart. The Rhodesian Government liked the parks to act as a buff to communist infiltration, the Federal government had created the system of parks and safari areas in the Zambezi valley to combat slavery and reduced government expenditure (by moving all the people out and settling them around Kariba they were able to stop the slavers and keep control with far fewer men). WINDFAL- the fore runner of CAMPFIRE was set up to keep the batonka firmy on the Rhodesian government side and to get civilians (the PH's and their trackers) and their clients to act as an early waring system for large scale infiltration by gooks (it worked- the government has still not forgiven the Batonka for siding with Ian Smith).

Sadly the history of conservation in Africa is the story of a few concerned men try to conserve for the sake of conservation and their plans being userped, twisted and used for the political expediency of the day

Word is that it is the communities themselves that are fed up with the current systems within the wildlife departments. Whilst they earn good revenues from safari hunting, they receive absolutely no benefits from resident hunting. Resident quotas are over inflated and often far exceed those issued to the operators. The concessions are see as a cash cow and this is detrimental to conservation.

I totally disagree with the ban and I am sure that resident hunting will be reinstated but under much more managed system. Personally I would like to see resident quotas dedicated to communities where the sale/auction of animals goes mainly into their coffers. The hunting then can be managed and overseen by both the operator and the attached community.

Like I say Zambia is a nation of hunters and this cannot be denied to citizens and residents alike. It just requires change.

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Concession Reallocations to be Announced; Fees Going Up
(posted December - 2012)

By Barbara Crown, Editor

Last month I told you that Zambia was reallocating hunting concessions for 2013. The tendering process closed in mid-November, with more than 60 applications accepted for 21 concessions. At this writing, the new allocations had not been announced, but they may have been by the time you read this. As soon as they are, I will issue an Email Extra bulletin and print them in the following issue of The Hunting Report. It is possible, however, that the announcement will not be made until the Dallas Safari Club convention in early January or later.

What you should be prepared for, no matter who gets what concession, is a significant jump in prices. That's because of increased concession fees and a hike in government trophy fees and other costs. Plus, operators are required to pay for 70 percent of their quotas up front.....

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What you should be prepared for, no matter who gets what concession, is a significant jump in prices. That's because of increased concession fees and a hike in government trophy fees and other costs. Plus, operators are required to pay for 70 percent of their quotas up front.....

Similar to what happened in TZ when someone decided to review and apply trophy prices in accordance with what was being charged by our southern neighbors without an in-depth survey of what made the clock tick!

70% of the quota value up front is going to hurt the outfitter big time though and while it being anticipated that both Zambia and TZ may end up on even footing price-wise, methinks TZ might just gain the upper hand.

Sorry to hear the local hunter is being priced out of their own country's hunting. Guess what happens when this happens -> more poaching and less limits.

Sad news, I met quite a few Zambian citizens who were responsible hunters.