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Hi Gang, I'm leaving on Thursday to join Mark Young in Zim to hunt with Garry Duckworth of Mokore Safari's for buffalo and plains game. Thanks much to all for all the info gleaned from this forum on hunting a world away. Mokore e-mailed the other day and asked if I would bring some .22 LR ammo for Garry. The only rifle I am bringing is my .375H&H. Do you all thing I will be running into any trouble in RSA, Zimbabwe, or anywhere along the way carrying ammunition I have no firearm for? If infact I can bring .22's, should I bring a 50 rnd box or a 500? Thanks in advance for the replies. | ||
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Don't think I would take the chance on ammo and no gun. It would seem that an easy solution would be to just put a cheap $100 22 LR rifle in your case, to allow you to bring ammo. Some questions arise tho. Is it a legal caliber for any of the game? Some countries consider it a poacher's weapon, and prohibit them. Is there a # limit for rounds (I was only allowed to bring 100 into Namibia)? If no limit, I would certainly bring a brick of 500. Do you have to get a permit beforehand for the weapon? Can you transfer the firearm legally to the PH when you leave? | |||
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I have seen in other posts where some hunters shoot birds for camp meat with a .22LR. I should think that taking one would be perfectly normal and justifiable under those circumstances. "I ask, sir, what is the Militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them" - George Mason, co-author of the Second Amendment during the Virginia convention to ratify the Constitution | |||
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Bringing the .22 rifle for me is out of the question. I have already taken care of the US Customs and RSA gun paperwork with AIR 2000. If the gov type folks just shrug their shoulders at the .22's then of course I'm happy to. On the other hand since I have already declared the .375 gun and ammo to the different gov's and I show up with,........ | |||
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I have taken 416 Rigby ammo for a PH when all I had was a 375. I just put it in a 375 box. Putting 22 rounds into a 375 box might be a little tougher. I have been to Africa with firearms eight times and have yet to have anyone check the ammo I brought. You can borrow money, but you can't borrow time. Go now. STAY IN THE FIGHT! | |||
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I understand that a letter confirming you will be renting a .22 to do some small game hunting will be sufficient documentation to get the ammo into Zim. They should be able to e-mail it to you. Gary and I had a little contest on doves and grouse last week. I took the first day's honors, and on the second day he proved he'd been going easy on me...wiped me up! Have a good hunt! GaryL Political correctness entails intolerance for some prejudices but impunity for others. James Taranto | |||
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The letter from the PH is probably the best way to go. _______________________________  | |||
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I would bring it and not worry about anything. Put it in a paper sack and if they find it the worse they will do is take it away from you. I bring ammo for my PH on most trips and have never had any problems. Bottom line is that it is up to you...if you don't want the hastle then dont do it...but I think you will be fine. ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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Thanks much folks for the advise. I have e-mailed the operator for the letter andwhen in Anchorage Thursday afternoon I'll buy a brick of 500. While traveling or in general dealing with people in "authority", I usually do quite well at no causing problems or making waves, so I suspect either way I won't have a problem. Regards to all and I'll post a report of my time in the Save upon my return. | |||
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Going into Zi I have never had a problem. I list the "other" ammo on the Zim form and have never had it questioned as I just tell them I am renting a rifle of that caliber. | |||
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Let's face it, the guys at customs in an African country cannot tell the difference between a 30 carbine cartridge and a 458 Lott. Of course you should do your best to obey the law, but there is no reason to over-analyze the situation either. | |||
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Speaking of weapons familiarity or lack thereof, it was funny when we began our stalk on the tuskless cow that I shot, Buzz stopped the game scout and made it a point to tell him in no uncertain terms that he did not want him to (i) load his AK-47, or (ii) consider using his AK-47. There was really no need to worry, a couple of days later we were given a mock charge by a young bull and it took us five minutes after shouting the bull down to find the game scout. Buzz said one of the worst sounds you can hear is the sound of that AK-47 bolt being racked back while the game scout is behind you.  All that said, the game scout was a great fellow and really chipped in and helped out with the tracking, cutting roads, skinning, etc. We were lucky, I understand that some of the game scouts can be a royal pain. Mike | |||
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I declared and entered Zim with 89 rounds of .375H&H. When the customs guy asked me why I was bringing so much ammo I just responded that, "I'm a really bad shot." He didn't know WHAT to say and just shook his head as he waved me on through! Gary Political correctness entails intolerance for some prejudices but impunity for others. James Taranto | |||
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