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Can Anyone Confirm This Regarding Lion Hunting?
29 August 2013, 21:56
Use Enough GunCan Anyone Confirm This Regarding Lion Hunting?
I have received the following email from Peter Fick who hunts the Bubye Conservancy in Zimbabwe. I have a lion hunt scheduled there for 2014, but my understanding was that a decision has not been made yet. Now this. Someone must know something that we don't.
Hi All
I have just received confirmation that we have 20 lioness on quota for this year in the Bubye Valley Conservancy - permits in hand from National Parks. No problem at all to export to the U.S.
Due to all the controversary surrounding the lion issues this will probably be the last time EVER that one will be able to hunt a wild lioness and export it. It has already been decided with all countries that from 2014 no more ;lioness will be able to be exported. For anyone interested in coming out this year for a lioness please contact me immediately.
PRICE
Daily Rate - 10 days @ $1 200/day ($12 000) + 2%levy ($240) Total = $12 240.
Trophy fee = $5 000 + 4% levy ($200) = $5 200
Transfer - Bulawayo/camp/return = $ 300
TOTAL COST = $17 740.
There will be other species of plains game at the trophy fees.
Observers @ $250/day (they can hunt off the allocated species list)
There are a couple of non trophy buffalo available too (35" dagga boys).
For a LIONESS/BUFFALO/PLAINS game hunt the rate will be
15 days @ $1 475 = $22 125
Buff trophy fee $3 200.
Serious folks - this is your last chance and such a shame the news arrived on the 11th hour.
My web page is -
www.peteficksafaris.com I will personally guarantee 100% success on the lioness (on my last male lion hunt we looked at almost 70 different males - never mind the females !)
Regards Pete
29 August 2013, 23:46
Kathi http://forums.accuratereloadin...2100588/m/5671040291UEG,
Posted on the discount hunts.
Kathi
kathi@wildtravel.net
708-425-3552
"The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page."
29 August 2013, 23:49
Use Enough GunThanks Kathi. I hadn't seen the discounted hunts section today. My hunt is actually with Shaun Buffee in 2014, and Shaun and I have been discussing this, this very morning via email, and whether I ought to come this year instead of next. Pete Fick also had me on his mailing list and that is what I received first, hence the post.
30 August 2013, 00:03
mboga biga bwanaquote:
I will personally guarantee 100% success on the lioness (on my last male lion hunt we looked at almost 70 different males - never mind the females !)

Nec Timor Nec Temeritas
30 August 2013, 00:09
Use Enough GunThe Bubye has a ton of lions. We ran into lion day and night last September.

30 August 2013, 00:24
ledvmI will e-mail Paul Trethowan (Lion Scientist of the Bubye) and see what he says.
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J. Lane Easter, DVM
A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House
No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
30 August 2013, 00:37
Larry SellersIs there an age restriction on female Lion?

UEG -On a serious note hope all works out for you, whether it's this year or next. Sounds like an adventure not to miss.
Larry Sellers
SCI (International) Life Member
30 August 2013, 00:52
Use Enough GunIf anyone seriously manages their wild lion population scientifically in Zimbabwe, it's the Bubye.

Thanks Larry. I want a mature and old lioness to go with my male lion.

There was a young guy from Cambridge leaving right after I had got there to hunt in September with PH Martin Nel. He had been studying the lions for quite some time and was going back to England for some R&R.
30 August 2013, 01:23
joesterI do believe you can't NOT get a lion in the Bubye! They were such pests when calling for hyena last year.
ledvm- - Please say hello to Paul from "Joe & Ruth in Pennsylvania", and he needs to come visit us ! We had a blast hyena hunting and lion spotting with him. Tried to dart a lioness to remove its tracking collar but it would not cooperate.
30 August 2013, 03:56
Kathi http://www.hunterproud.com/In the attached link is an excellent 35 minute documentary on the Bubye Conservancy. At approximately the 22 minute mark is the ongoing lion conservation.
Good luck UEG, hope it works out.
Kathi
kathi@wildtravel.net
708-425-3552
"The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page."
30 August 2013, 06:01
ledvmquote:
Originally posted by Use Enough Gun:
If anyone seriously manages their wild lion population scientifically in Zimbabwe, it's the Bubye.

Thanks Larry. I want a mature and old lioness to go with my male lion.
There was a young guy from Cambridge leaving right after I had got there to hunt in September with PH Martin Nel. He had been studying the lions for quite some time and was going back to England for some R&R.
That would be Paul Trethowan...the fellow I mentioned above.
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J. Lane Easter, DVM
A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House
No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
30 August 2013, 07:00
Use Enough GunI met him. A very nice fellow, but ready to return to England!
30 August 2013, 07:17
Clan_Collaquote:
Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
Is there an age restriction on female Lion?
women all lie about their age anyway
30 August 2013, 09:59
ManuelMThe Bubye sure sounds like one of the top picks for lion in Africa, most males I've seen shot there sported spectacular manes and for what I've read the place is crawling with lions.
03 September 2013, 23:18
ledvmFrom BVC Lion Researcher:
Basically lioness hunting has not been officially banned in Zim but we
do not expect Parks to issue quotas in the future.
BVC definitely want to continue lioness hunting and indeed will cull
if they cannot hunt lioness.
Together with the GM of BVC I recently represented BVC at a meeting
with Parks and other scientists and stakeholders to discuss the way
forward for Zim and lion hunting/management. Lioness were barely
discussed at all but before the issue was brushed over Parks did agree
in principle that a lioness quota could be issued when "good
scientific evidence" showed that it was necessary or sustainable to do
so. However, there was very little sympathy for BVC's position from
anyone at the meeting, particularly parks and I think that it is
highly unlikely that Parks will issue lioness quotas in the future
regardless of what evidence is put in front of them. It is obviously
a sensitive issue and I know that Parks are under a lot of political
pressure internationally.
Interestingly I did notice that in the 2011 petition to USFWS the
authors state that "until recently lioness hunting has been permitted
in Zimbabwe". That did not make sense to me since lioness hunting had
not then (nor at any other time) been banned in this country. It
makes me wonder if there was not some agreement/conversation between
individuals within parks and the welfare organisations that we are not
aware of.
In summary, lioness hunting in Zim is not officially banned at this
stage. That said, we do not expect a quota to be issued next year
though the conservancy will apply for one nonetheless.
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J. Lane Easter, DVM
A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House
No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
04 September 2013, 03:38
Use Enough GunLane: Thanks for posting Paul's response.
