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PH's/outfitters-Can we bring this to a hunt?
30 January 2011, 11:36
KarlPH's/outfitters-Can we bring this to a hunt?
As in will it get through various customs/imports.
7 shot detach mag action handling the 505 gibbs case size.Assume smaller scope, non-fluted barrel, and more hunt friendly synthetic stock
Karl.
30 January 2011, 16:11
retreeverYes Karl but will you carry it because I do not want too.
Mike
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30 January 2011, 18:52
prof242You have to shoot it, too, Karl. I know my shoulder would not want the recoil.
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30 January 2011, 20:38
465H&HThe pertinent questions isn't if you can but why would you want to?

465H&H
30 January 2011, 20:46
crbutlerAnd are we going to see the gonzo long range hunters too? Whoo, how about that 1000 yards kill on an elephant!!! ?
30 January 2011, 21:11
Karlquote:
Originally posted by 465H&H:
The pertinent questions isn't if you can but why would you want to?

465H&H
Actually, no the pertinent question is if I can.
Why I would want to is like why use a 4 bore, why own a ferrari, why would any of us want to shoot big game in the first place etc etc-you know the schtick guys.
Do we really have to do it all over ?
Can't you just let me ask my weird question and go on my way

30 January 2011, 21:20
Michael RobinsonLooks like a bolt action rifle to me. Not my particular cup of meat, but a bolt action nonetheless.
Last time I checked, bolt actions could be imported into any African country that has a hunting season.
Mike
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30 January 2011, 21:28
Karlquote:
Originally posted by crbutler:
And are we going to see the gonzo long range hunters too? Whoo, how about that 1000 yards kill on an elephant!!! ?
1600 yards.The owner of this one says it targets shoots to a mile

Thanks for the replies on the legalities Mike et al.
The lawton above is clunky as hell with its bolt handle and general weight obviously. Some of the Stillers and Surgeon actions etc can shave down into quite functional bigbores. Not the cup of tea of african purists and CRF guys of course.
31 January 2011, 07:26
J DHi Karl
Is that the 408 chey-tec
I am gathering parts to build a 416/505 on a montana ph that should look similar when done
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31 January 2011, 08:21
crbutlerIf you are thinking about legalities, it probably matters what the exact model is and caliber it is, and depends on what country it is being brought in to.
If it is a sniper rifle in a sniper caliber some of the countries might call it a weapon of war. I think the Chey-Tac's or Lapua Mag might fall in that category.
If its a custom in a hunting caliber, Mike would be right, but "It's Africa" still would apply.
31 January 2011, 12:03
KarlJD yep its Chey-tac setup,standard CT .75" bolt and bottom metal with 4.5" long mag box, but a necked down 375 in this case. Real blowtorch.
Your 416/505 sounds like a better idea for a cartridge. Also keep these guys in mind for ULD softpoints
http://www.rmbullets.com/page9.htmlCR good point, that is what I was wondering about.
31 January 2011, 20:55
butchlocah - finally a rapid fire rifle for shooting dassies
01 February 2011, 03:59
Russ GouldI have taken my "Bad Boy VIII" into Africa three times without a problem. This is a bolt rifle with an 8 round magazine. My personal one is a 375 H&H but I can supply them in 416 Rem, 458 Lott, or similar.
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01 February 2011, 19:34
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02 February 2011, 23:56
leopards valley safarisquote:
Originally posted by Karl:
As in will it get through various customs/imports.
7 shot detach mag action handling the 505 gibbs case size.Assume smaller scope, non-fluted barrel, and more hunt friendly synthetic stock
Karl.
have fun carring that around you can do what you want but in heavy brush and you gotta get a shot off in 3-4sec after walking 2-3 clicks in 80-90'Degrees.
GREAT FOR DASSIES AT 500+ yds
by all means go for it

03 February 2011, 00:08
Code4A person a lot older and wiser than me said that if you want your teeth fixed son go to a dentists. A plumber can't help you.
That is a long range snipers rifle desgned to be used from the prone position. If your P/H is happy for you to take it then feel free. There are better rifles for hunting, and hunting involves more than just shooting. (unless you plan to never get off the truck).