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Yes, this is about the recent lion kill.

If they left the carcass to rot, which is how it's been described in the media at least once, is that illegal in Zimbabwe?

I did ask this in another thread, but not being on topic, it got overlooked.

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"Protein never goes to waste in Africa" Capstick


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"Protein never goes to waste in Africa" Capstick


I read a lot of Capstick, only to learn most of it was made up, or happened to someone else.

It was still very interesting.

Anyhow, I understand that scavengers will consume every bit of meat left on a carcass, but I'm referring wanton waste by humans. Cool

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nothing goes to waist meaning that the whole carcass is salvaged and used as meat, including intestines and hooves


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"Protein never goes to waste in Africa" Capstick


I read a lot of Capstick, only to learn most of it was made up, or happened to someone else.

It was still very interesting.

Anyhow, I understand that scavengers will consume every bit of meat left on a carcass, but I'm referring wanton waste by humans. Cool

Thanks!
 
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In Burkina Faso, they eat lions.
 
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Worst case it got eaten by the same animals that would have eaten it in a couple years anyway.

Leaving the skinned carcass just makes it clear they knew it was an illegal kill: poachers only carry away the parts they get paid for.


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Yes, this is about the recent lion kill.

If they left the carcass to rot, which is how it's been described in the media at least once, is that illegal in Zimbabwe?

I did ask this in another thread, but not being on topic, it got overlooked.

Thanks for your help.



Some animals are never eaten - notably hyaenas.

And there is no legal requirement that everything you shoot should be eaten or taken out of the bush.

I doubt that the lion meat was left to rot in the bush - Africans do eat it, and value its fat very highly.

And no meat left in the bush ever stays for long, as other animals will eat it.

The media is playing on the hysteria of the ignorant public.

The same people who flock to McDonald and KFC every day to devour meat, conveniently forgetting where that meat came from.


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Yes, this is about the recent lion kill.

If they left the carcass to rot, which is how it's been described in the media at least once, is that illegal in Zimbabwe?

I did ask this in another thread, but not being on topic, it got overlooked.

Thanks for your help.



Some animals are never eaten - notably hyaenas.

And there is no legal requirement that everything you shoot should be eaten or taken out of the bush.

I doubt that the lion meat was left to rot in the bush - Africans do eat it, and value its fat very highly.

And no meat left in the bush ever stays for long, as other animals will eat it.

The media is playing on the hysteria of the ignorant public.

The same people who flock to McDonald and KFC every day to devour meat, conveniently forgetting where that meat came from.


Thanks Saeed,

Do you happen to know if it's Zimbabwe law to recover the meat, either by the PH, or the Africans.

BTW, wish I had made a visit to shoot the Tyrannosaurus during my many visits to Dubai. Sadly, they were always so short, just a night, sometimes two. Hopefully I'll be traveling through there again soon.


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I hunted outside Hwange in 2002, just a few weeks before the landowner's property (part of the Gwayi Conservancy) was seized.

Another hunter in camp shot a lioness, and we had sautéed medallions of lion with onion for a snack with sundowners.

Very tasty; bore a striking resemblance to veal.

From my very limited experience in RSA and Zimbabwe, I'd say virtually everything salvageable is eaten or used in some way.


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I think in most African countries the animal belongs to the hunter, and he does what he wishes with it.


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In my experience it depends on the local culture. I think you'll find that the majority of predator carcasses are left for the hyenas. In the case of the last lion I shot we used it for croc bait. Generally speaking there is no need for specific laws about recovering the meat as every part of the animals is utilized.

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Thanks to all of you for the replies.


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