Hello all,

Just a quick post as a result of a job opportunity that has come up for me to work in consulting for a mining client in Maputo, Mozambique. I may or may not take this offer, but wanted to find out about hunting opportunities in Moz. that might change my mind

1. What hunting oportunities might there be for temporary residents? Animals, hunt without PH?, areas etc. Remember, I would be working out of Maputo.

2. Can I obtain a PH license to do freelance work in one of the Coutadas with temporary residency?

3. In general, if I work there, what should I go out of my way to hunt?

Any other comments are appreciated.PM me if you prefer. Thank you!

Yes, I do speak Portuguese and a couple of other languages...

I´ve heard that ele and sable are good in Moz, you could contact Sandy McDonald who runs a consession there. McDonalds Safaris out of SA.

Or Peet du Pres at www.bahati.co.za who has had a concession in Coutada 10 for years. Personally, I had great hunting there but an allergy to the local gnats will prevent me from returning, unfortunately. Beautiful place.

Thanks guys. There is just very little internet accesible info on Moz.

Even in African Hunter II, there is no mention of associations, contacts etc. re:Moz (or any country for that matter).

Is there a PH association for Moz.? If so, they do not have a website that I could find.

Anyone else with huntin info on Moz.???

Hello,
Have travelled all over the African Continent and trust me, those who can leave and live elsewhere are doing just that. That is extremely true in South Africa as well as most other areas. Not intended to be a political comment, but you can not escape it in Africa and over time, it will become more and more unfit politically to attempt any normal lifestyle. Wanting to hunt is a nobel quest, but unless you are able to insulate yourself over a long period of time with wealth and influence, the hunting will not be worth the effort you will have to put forth to survive. Go and have a great safari, hunt, visit, etc., but then get the hell out of there and go home.
JMO based on previous experiences.
dsiteman

There is some very good humting to be had in Moz. I was there last fall & saw good Sable, Nyala, bushbuck, buffalo hippo, ele, etc. I have no idea about the ability to hunt w/o a PH, but it is a 4th world country, I would be carefull going it alone.

Just about any place outside of RSA requires a 3 year apprenticeship to become a PH, eh? There are citizenship requirements too. It is rumored that some good old boys have bribed their way into the PH biz. Speaking several languages, African and European, helps immensely.

Politics and money talks and walks very well in Africa. If you ain't a cash cow to them, then they don't want you hunting in Africa. The PH supply outstrips the demand for PH's in many places.

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Originally posted by dsiteman:
Hello,
Have travelled all over the African Continent and trust me, those who can leave and live elsewhere are doing just that. That is extremely true in South Africa as well as most other areas. Not intended to be a political comment, but you can not escape it in Africa and over time, it will become more and more unfit politically to attempt any normal lifestyle. Wanting to hunt is a nobel quest, but unless you are able to insulate yourself over a long period of time with wealth and influence, the hunting will not be worth the effort you will have to put forth to survive. Go and have a great safari, hunt, visit, etc., but then get the hell out of there and go home.
JMO based on previous experiences.
dsiteman

Dsiteman,

Having been a bit around the african continent myself, I can't quite agree with you. First of all, CanadianLeftys job offer in Moz as a mining consultant is most likely not a permanant, lifelong position. I would guess it's for some years, but not "forever". Secondly, if I could speak Portugees, I would rather move to Moz for a few years than RSA for example. We have friends who have worked in Moz for several years and have been very happy there. My wife and I were offered a job while in Moz, and had the job been of interest to us, we would not have hesitated. Things in africa will of course never be quite like in Europe or America, and as long as one realizes that, and can deal with the "local mentality", I see no problem doing it for a while. Besides Mozambique, Uganda and Tanzania would be 2 other top choices of mine, as would a couple of countrys in west africa such as Mali and Ghana.

I might be wrong, but Canadianlefty would most likely not take a job in Moz just for the potential chance of a hunt now and then. I would think he would do it for the job and general life experiance. And I personally think it would be well worth it.

But I agree that I would not settle down in africa "forever" due to political instability.

If the job pays well, I would take it if I were you. If you have a bit of cash, you can travel and hunt extensively in Africa while living here. From Moz you can go to Zimbabwe, Malawi, South Africa for a weekend trip. It is like living in the Bahamas, it just costs much less.
Wonderful diving and seefood cheaper than chicken. Big game fishing... Need I say more.

Don't know about becoming a PH, though.

My 2c

Canadian lefty

Get a permanent resident permit that is called a DIRE with this you can hunt. However you have to by your tags and license in the provincial capitol. Tag fees are the same for concessions and residents. Is on a first come first save basis, normally no problem, you can hunt in any province but you have to buy from each province a license and the tags for the requested animal. The province issue licenses for a specific districts and this is where you can hunt on public land only. The animal you can hunt a limited by the quota given to the province.
Lion, elephant and rare species a normally are not on provincial quotas.

Good hunting areas for game are not being found close to Maputo but more in the central and northern parts of Mozambique but then they’re are no mining operation around Maputo. Bird shooting can be found 2hrs from Maputo.
Chances a you will have to travel to the mining site anyhow.

If you are open-minded, patient and relaxed you will enjoy Mozambique. Don’t forget the Swiss invented Watches but Africa owns all the time.

There is a Mozambican outfitter and safari operator organisation called AMOS founded about 3 years ago but it is not function “yet�

There a no facility in Mozambique at the moment to be trained and to qualify as a PH I am working on setting up a Training centre for the last 2 years maybe one day I will succeed?

Forget about working as ph in the concessions may get you off hunting forever.

The important thing is to know who and how to ask.

I would do it. I am from Europe and enjoy Africa and will never go back to Europe, life and hunting in Africa is better than anywhere!
You will get a different perspective on life in Africa and Africa will remind you what is important in life.

Following some web sites

http://www.mbendi.co.za/indy/trvl/af/mz/p0005.htm
http://allafrica.com/mozambique/
http://www.mozambique.mz/turismo/politica/general.htm
http://www.cpi.co.mz/inv_leg.htm
http://www.acisofala.com/about_acis1.htm

Send me an email at mondza@telkomsa.net and I forward you’a brochure in pdf "living and working in Mozambique". Lot of info in it.

looking forward of seeing you in Mozambique

freischuetz

Thanks so much!

I sent you an e-mail to follow-up with this discussion.

Cheers,
CL

I am involved in a new venture in Mozambique and the concession is that of Safarilandia of some early fame..Hunted by royality, Hemmingway, Ruark, Manners and Selby etc. It will be awhile before I have all the details, but its an exciting venture on my part..

I can also book you with Johann Calitz who has a great concession in Mozambique now...

Now if only they will open up the elephant hunting to legal exportation of Ivory, then once again the great historical game fields of Mozambique will take their rightfull place in the hunting world.