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Originally posted by Opus1:

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Originally posted by Capt. Purvis:
Outfitters are in the same situation as restaurants and hotels. There will be many business that will not be able to survive. I have prepared to loose my Africa hunts for 2020 and all of the big money Marlin tournaments that I fish have been cancelled. Alaska will loose most of its fishing season. Southern Hemisphere outfitters will suffer the most. I refunded all of my deposits but many people in this business have already spent their clients deposits.
Do you homework on any deposits for future hunts and make sure they will still be around.

This quarter is going to be brutal. In Feb I was very close to putting a deposit down for a Botswana Elephant. I am monitoring the market and going to invest that money as stocks continue to fall.

The African tourism and hunting industries are being decimated at the moment. Most were already struggling from lower activity due to drought and reduced quota. The lockdown has pretty much finished many off. Particularly hard hit are the guys who were gearing up to Botswana. A lot of deposit money was spent to open camps; deposit money that no longer exists.

And let's not forget the local communities and employees that depend on hunting and tourism revenues for survival.

Tough times for many...

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Originally posted by tanks:

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Originally posted by larryshores:
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The money for the hunts is, as a practical matter , totally gone. I am also concerned with all of my 2021 hunts. Why put more money into it with all of the uncertainty?

Why do you think the money for the hunts is gone? The outfitters are not willing to reschedule or refund the funds?

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by Opus1:
Larry what type of feedback are you receiving from the operators? I am assuming deposit refund was addressed in your hunting agreements(?)

My only suggestion is be the squeaky wheel as most likely the deposits are already spent.

I hate to say it but the most immediate issues are those with no contract. I have known the guy for 35 years.

They called and said the season was cancelled and they had already paid the landowner. They are moving me to next year.

The duck hunt is irrelevant as they never billed me. However , I do have 4 business class tickets.


The trip to Namibia was an auction hunt at DSC. I have not looked at the documents I received.

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Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
All of these are appropriate thoughts, however to assume that the governments in these places will even be stable is questionable.

Especially Africa.

Jeff

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Originally posted by robncolorado:

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by Opus1:
Larry what type of feedback are you receiving from the operators? I am assuming deposit refund was addressed in your hunting agreements(?)

My only suggestion is be the squeaky wheel as most likely the deposits are already spent.

I hate to say it but the most immediate issues are those with no contract. I have known the guy for 35 years.

They called and said the season was cancelled and they had already paid the landowner. They are moving me to next year.

The duck hunt is irrelevant as they never billed me. However , I do have 4 business class tickets.


The trip to Namibia was an auction hunt at DSC. I have not looked at the documents I received.

Larry, my wife and I had to cancel a trip in early March simply because of our concern of traveling. American fully refunded us via a credit useable within a year. No penalties. I hear that has been normal from friends in the airline business.