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Tony Da Costa - retiring Jan 06
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I noticed the original instigator of the very famous and successful huntpacks / or package hunts, Tony Da Costa will cease to operate and retire Jan 2006 ///

I also noticed a [ VERY INTERESTING ] article on his pages pertaining to a past Legal proceeding in Africa and how damn difficult it might be !!!

FYI, although a bit dated it makes some interesting reading

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A very informative post, but not too surprising to anyone who has been around Africa for long! Roll Eyes


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Indeed interesting reading.
 
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You should read Mr.daCosta's report with care. It is only one side of the debate and the other side is as equally compelling. Mr. da Costa is not without reproach.


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Where is the other side?
 
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Good post.


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A very good friend of mine has been waiting 2 years for Mr. Bronkhorst to finalize shipment of a leopard and plains game trophies. Beware of this character.

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Where is the other side?


Come on, zimbabwe. Where is it?


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You would have to contact Mr Bronkhorst to get his side of the story.It truly does have another side. That's the basic problem with the internet anyone can put out anything and it immediately assumes the status of fact.


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Zimbabwe,

I don't know you or any of the players..but it appears that you are being a little guilty of the same thing yourself.

The link above lays out a set of statements and you say there is another side implying don't believe all the statements by Mr. DaCosta.

When you're asked what the other side is...your response is go ask the other party. Your statement would appear to be even less credible by definition.


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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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thoughtful of you to bring the subject again to the attention of all that believe a written contract means anything.
One lawyer told me in the past- here in the USA, Smiler that it only tells you how much it costs you when broken.
Even if you persued the matter of 3 600$ here in the Us, once you involve a lawyer you are bound to increase your losses.Simply because of the costs and fees.It is very expensive to set things right,even when you are right.
The legal profession has taken care of that.
So what is a man to do?
Select a man whose handshake still means somthing - because thats really all you have to stand on.
 
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... That's the basic problem with the internet anyone can put out anything and it immediately assumes the status of fact.


Yep. Just like your previous post. bull


"What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value."
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Balla Balla
thoughtful of you to bring the subject again to the attention of all that believe a written contract means anything.
One lawyer told me in the past- here in the USA, Smiler that it only tells you how much it costs you when broken.
Even if you persued the matter of 3 600$ here in the Us, once you involve a lawyer you are bound to increase your losses.Simply because of the costs and fees.It is very expensive to set things right,even when you are right.
The legal profession has taken care of that.
So what is a man to do?
Select a man whose handshake still means somthing - because thats really all you have to stand on.


sheephunter

For what it's worth here is MY PERSONAL opinion ...

A contract only serves a true purpose for those two parties that enter into it and that are presumed to be honest / just the same as locking your house is only to keep honest people out, a crook will break into your house no matter what ....

Having said that, a contarct is a document that outlines in general terms what is offered and what it will cost, nothing more and nothing less, as if there is a MAJOR dispute that goes beyond (an amicable solution) then the next option to redress might be the legal route with all the fishooks pitfalls and costs involved.

As our esteemed RAY ATKINSON states, he mostly operates without a contract and along the lines of a gentlemans agreement, that again is OK when both parties are not crooks.

Now ... how to establish whom are crooks is the key to the problem, if we can do that then the world would be a much easier place to do business in and the battle would be over

So at the end of the day we take a chance in life the minute we walk out of our fromt door into the big wide world, so being a mere mortal I DONT have a perfect solution ///

Regards, Peter
 
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Good call, Mike D. There's no use in saying there's another side if all you're hinting at is pure BS.


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It is unfortuate that someone states something here about another individuals reputation without providing any basis...well thats the internet for you..

A Contract provides for a basic understand from which the parties can work from...for a contract to work each must perform certain requirements/obligation. If things go the wrong way it becomes critically important to communicate with the other party...otherwise things deteriorate quickly.

My preference is to do business with people of integrity who do what they say. I spend time up front doing my due diligence so usually I know what I am getting into but no one can anticipate all problems.

I negotiate and structure several complex deals every year some as a principle others on behalf of clients, given that these transactions are fairly complicated and difficulties can and do happen, we always have a provision in the contracts whereby if either party brings an action against the other, the loser pays the legal costs, etc. I deal with enough of this stuff to know that it is much better to stay away from characters with a past. Thankfully, Accurate Reloading has been a valuable resource in determining where and whom I hunt with!

If you are going to state a "charge" bring some facts or state the other side!
 
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