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Need to fix this site so only members can read the posts.


And then they just sign up for a membership. Takes 5 more minutes out of their day. Won't solve anything. You want to keep your thoughts and opinions private? Keep your (virtual) mouth shut.


So we should not be able to debate topics?

Debate ethical issues?

Evolve?

Silence has brought us to this crossroads.

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Not only are they watching Accurate Reloading, it is also quoted as a source of information. ~ Alan


Zimbabwe: 'Biggest Elephant in Living Memory' Killed in Hunt

A social media outcry over the killing last week of a huge elephant in southern Zimbabwe has rekindled memories of Cecil the lion, although this hunt appeared to have been legal.

The elephant, described as being one of the biggest in living memory, was allegedly killed on October 8 by a German hunter on the southern border of Zimbabwe's Gonarezhou National Park.

Johnny Rodrigues of the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force (ZCTF) told News24 the report was true.

"We don't know if [the elephant] was from Kruger National Park or from Zimbabwe, but he wandered into a safari area and was shot."

Hunters on the pro-hunting forum accuratereloading.com identified the safari area as the Malapati concession. There was no suggestion this hunt was illegal, unlike the one that killed Cecil the lion in July.

Many of those who left comments on the accuratereloading.com forum congratulated the hunter with one even suggesting this could be "the best African trophy taken in the last 20 years". However, there was also a lone voice of caution.

"Shooting an elephant like that is kind of like shooting the last Tasmanian devil," said one contributor identified as Mike.


The debate on social media stirred up by the news of the huge elephant's killing has echoes of the outrage that followed Cecil's killing in early July. He was hunted first with a bow and arrow and then with a gun by US dentist Walter Palmer.

Zimbabwe's environment minister Oppah Muchinguri this week backed down on calls for Palmer to be extradited, saying the dentist's papers were "in order" and he was free to come back to Zimbabwe as a tourist.

Theo Bronkhorst, the Zimbabwean hunter who arranged the hunt, was due back in court on Thursday over the Cecil case, but his case was postponed until Tuesday. Bronkhorst's lawyers were hopeful the Zimbabwe government's decision not to press charges against Palmer for Cecil's death may influence Bronkhorst's case.


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Not only are they watching Accurate Reloading, it is also quoted as a source of information. ~ Alan


Zimbabwe: 'Biggest Elephant in Living Memory' Killed in Hunt

A social media outcry over the killing last week of a huge elephant in southern Zimbabwe has rekindled memories of Cecil the lion, although this hunt appeared to have been legal.

The elephant, described as being one of the biggest in living memory, was allegedly killed on October 8 by a German hunter on the southern border of Zimbabwe's Gonarezhou National Park.

Johnny Rodrigues of the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force (ZCTF) told News24 the report was true.

"We don't know if [the elephant] was from Kruger National Park or from Zimbabwe, but he wandered into a safari area and was shot."

Hunters on the pro-hunting forum accuratereloading.com identified the safari area as the Malapati concession. There was no suggestion this hunt was illegal, unlike the one that killed Cecil the lion in July.

Many of those who left comments on the accuratereloading.com forum congratulated the hunter with one even suggesting this could be "the best African trophy taken in the last 20 years". However, there was also a lone voice of caution.

"Shooting an elephant like that is kind of like shooting the last Tasmanian devil," said one contributor identified as Mike.


The debate on social media stirred up by the news of the huge elephant's killing has echoes of the outrage that followed Cecil's killing in early July. He was hunted first with a bow and arrow and then with a gun by US dentist Walter Palmer.

Zimbabwe's environment minister Oppah Muchinguri this week backed down on calls for Palmer to be extradited, saying the dentist's papers were "in order" and he was free to come back to Zimbabwe as a tourist.

Theo Bronkhorst, the Zimbabwean hunter who arranged the hunt, was due back in court on Thursday over the Cecil case, but his case was postponed until Tuesday. Bronkhorst's lawyers were hopeful the Zimbabwe government's decision not to press charges against Palmer for Cecil's death may influence Bronkhorst's case.


Who said journalism was dead?

That is deep investigative stuff right there...

Jeff
 
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Who said journalism was dead?

That is deep investigative stuff right there...

Jeff


LOL! Ya, nothing like quoting an anonymous source off an internet forum who is just as likely to be a 10 year old kid as a wildlife biologist!
 
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Given that those quotes from AR were in the very first news stories... if the Facebook repost and subsequent comments had never been made... would this have even become a serious news story?


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National Geographic used to be such a wonderful magazine..........

Now it's nothing but a political group of greenie know nothings......


People forget, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC IS A MAGAZINE. Big Grin

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I can tell you this - one look at the other thread and those of "us" who have questioned the taking of this bull because he's too big,

Aaron, who are the offending idiots saying this and where? jeez!


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even though AR is not "searchable" generally-

it would be a good idea to make AR a "members only" reading site rather than a "guest reading" site
 
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"Shooting an elephant like that is kind of like shooting the last Tasmanian devil," said one contributor identified as Mike.

Gee -

Thanks Mike
 
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We don't have anything to hide. We should be the go to place for people who want to know about African hunting and the realities and truth behind it.

With all due respect I would rather have people here on AR giving interviews and quotes than some of the paid representatives of the international hunting organizations.


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The last 5 days have been most unusual for me.

First, it was the Nat Geo reporters contacting me. Then twice this week I have had local reporters request to accompany me on a controversial local bear hunt.
 
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The last 5 days have been most unusual for me.

First, it was the Nat Geo reporters contacting me. Then twice this week I have had local reporters request to accompany me on a controversial local bear hunt.


A newspapeer here that was voted the "best free newspaper in Sweden" did a 5 page story about one of my hunts. It came out really good with some facts and heard only postive feedback. I just said that before publishing I must approve it first or no story.

They had found a photo on the web from a hunting trip, and they contacted me through social media.

You should do it Larry!
 
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The last 5 days have been most unusual for me.

First, it was the Nat Geo reporters contacting me. Then twice this week I have had local reporters request to accompany me on a controversial local bear hunt.


Like I have said earlier on AR - a living legend.

Mike
 
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The last 5 days have been most unusual for me.

First, it was the Nat Geo reporters contacting me. Then twice this week I have had local reporters request to accompany me on a controversial local bear hunt.


A newspapeer here that was voted the "best free newspaper in Sweden" did a 5 page story about one of my hunts. It came out really good with some facts and heard only postive feedback. I just said that before publishing I must approve it first or no story.

They had found a photo on the web from a hunting trip, and they contacted me through social media.

You should do it Larry!


There is no way. They are not looking to put a positive spin on this bear hunt.

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I agree Jeff.

It might be fun to scare the hell out of the reporters.
 
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I agree Jeff.

It might be fun to scare the hell out of the reporters.


Use them for bear bait...

Jeff
 
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