Tiny 10 shotgun

09 February 2020, 05:53

Poochuss

Tiny 10 shotgun

Going to be hunting some of the tiny 10 in June of this year, and was advised to bring a shotgun. I'm planning to take my Rem 870, but what barrel length? I have a 28 inch and a 21 inch barrel, both smooth bore and removable chokes. Will be hunting near Port Elizabeth.

09 February 2020, 11:18

crbutler

Frankly, at the distances you will be shooting, the extra barrel length won't help, and may hinder if you are in really thick brush.

The shots you will get will be modest distance and with most likely a moving target. I'd recommend buckshot over birdshot, even if you are talking larger sizes. Given buckshot, I'd stick with cylinder bore.

That being said, all of my tiny ten have been shot with a rifle, mostly big bores because that was what was in hand when the opportunity arose.

09 February 2020, 15:31

fulvio

I keep a Franchi Variant O/U handy if the client wants to shoot some of the little guys without doing too much damage.

Hunting Suni, Red Duiker, Grysbok & Dik Dik at relatively close quarters I fit Imp. Cyl. & Imp. Mod. which keep the pattern relatively tight between 20 & 30 yds. on N.3 or 4.

09 February 2020, 21:10

DLS

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Originally posted by fulvio:
I keep a Franchi Variant O/U handy if the client wants to shoot some of the little guys without doing too much damage.

Hunting Suni, Red Duiker, Grysbok & Dik Dik at relatively close quarters I fit Imp. Cyl. & Imp. Mod. which keep the pattern relatively tight between 20 & 30 yds. on N.3 or 4.

Interesting thoughts. One thing I’d definitely do would be to take shells loaded with HeviShot, which is a heavier than lead alloy. It is noticeably more effective than regular lead shells. Anything from BB’s to 4’s in HeviShot should be excellent. Also, think about taking along some of HeviShot’s ‘Dead Coyote’ loads. If you haven’t shot anything with it before, you’ll be very impressed. It is T shot (they also make it in 00 buck) made from HeviShot alloy. We’ve killed coyotes at 75+ yards with it. It would be a bit much for the smallest duikers but on the bigger ones as well as things like civets, jackals and anything up to around 50 pounds inside 50 yards, it’s normally ‘bang-flop’. Dead Coyote outperforms regular buckshot.

09 February 2020, 22:04

AnotherAZWriter

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Originally posted by DLS:
quote:
Originally posted by fulvio:
I keep a Franchi Variant O/U handy if the client wants to shoot some of the little guys without doing too much damage.

Hunting Suni, Red Duiker, Grysbok & Dik Dik at relatively close quarters I fit Imp. Cyl. & Imp. Mod. which keep the pattern relatively tight between 20 & 30 yds. on N.3 or 4.

Interesting thoughts. One thing I’d definitely do would be to take shells loaded with HeviShot, which is a heavier than lead alloy. It is noticeably more effective than regular lead shells. Anything from BB’s to 4’s in HeviShot should be excellent. Also, think about taking along some of HeviShot’s ‘Dead Coyote’ loads. If you haven’t shot anything with it before, you’ll be very impressed. It is T shot (they also make it in 00 buck) made from HeviShot alloy. We’ve killed coyotes at 75+ yards with it. It would be a bit much for the smallest duikers but on the bigger ones as well as things like civets, jackals and anything up to around 50 pounds inside 50 yards, it’s normally ‘bang-flop’. Dead Coyote outperforms regular buckshot.

Have to agree that those coyote loads are very impressive

10 February 2020, 06:58

crbutler

The only things I've shot with hevishot other than birds were a little too close and made a mess of them (it also tends to make a mess of birds if you are too close...).

I agree the dead coyote loads are effective, just they tend to pattern quite tight and make a mess of the animal at close distance. For a varmint, no big deal, but a trophy animal, it seems much too destructive.

10 February 2020, 09:11

gunslinger55

Of the 2 tiny 10 taken Suni was a .223 FMJ. Minimal damage at approx 60-80 yards in the jungle I forget. The Duiker 7mm-08 at 225. Both bang flop but shotguns were talked about a lot for the 10 and other were using them. Just gotta be in shotgun range which is limiting

10 February 2020, 22:21

Russ Gould

Depending on the country, you may not be able to bring in a pump shotgun. Especially one that "looks" like a riot control gun.

The klipspringer is part of the tiny 10. Good luck getting in shotgun range of one of those. A shotgun might be useful for duiker and grysbok which are sometimes "flushed" out of long grass in day time.

I would use a standard CF rifle with solids.

11 February 2020, 17:57

Poochuss

Thanks for the thoughts. I will be hunting near Port Elizabeth RSA and the 870 is bare bones stock. Just thinking the shorter barrel would be better in weight and handling.

Thanks for the thoughts on ammo too, outfitter recommended #4 shot.

11 February 2020, 21:40

Tim Carney

Used a .22 K-hornet with 60-grain Nosler partition to take Damara dik-dik and red duiker and oven-sized wart hog in Southern Africa. But question is whether the cartridge meets minimum energy requirements where hunting...

Regards

11 February 2020, 22:26

safari-lawyer

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Originally posted by Poochuss:
Thanks for the thoughts. I will be hunting near Port Elizabeth RSA and the 870 is bare bones stock. Just thinking the shorter barrel would be better in weight and handling.

Thanks for the thoughts on ammo too, outfitter recommended #4 shot.

If you are not aware, there is a new-ish thing called Tungsten Super Shot (TSS). We use it for turkeys and waterfowl. Usually #9, #9.5, and #10 shot.

If I were hunting duikers with a shotgun, I would use #7 TSS without reservation. You'll have double (maybe 3x) the payload of lead #4s and the #7 TSS weighs about the same as a #2 lead.

It's really bad stuff.

Tends to shoot tighter than lead, so you'll likely want a modified or improved cylinder choke, depending on expected shot distances.

11 February 2020, 23:56

lal

Poochus, I shot my very first and last Blue Duiker using a Modified Choke with 7.5 Trap loads ! I was walking up Red Necked Francolin in some coastal bush when the little Blue Duiker flushed at my feet....

I think a Modified to Full Choke with any size lead shot suited to geese would be good for the smaller antelope at very close range ofcourse.

Happy Hunting !

13 February 2020, 02:34

MacD37

For the tiny ten the perfect gun would be a over/under rifle shotgun with a 20 ga,12 ga bottom and a 22 long rifle or 22 hornet or 223 rifle barrel on top with adjustable iron sights, and a quick detach low powered scope,

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MacD37