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I'm highly interested in this cartridge, and would like to know which of the new reloading books carry load info on this one.
Also, any experiences, thoughts, opinions, what-have-you, can you share about it? Thanks. ~~~Suluuq
 
Posts: 854 | Location: Kotzebue, Ak. | Registered: 25 December 2001Reply With Quote
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According to the rags, Steyr has dropped it due to lackluster sales.

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Posts: 14623 | Location: San Antonio, TX | Registered: 22 May 2001Reply With Quote
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376 steyr was DOA due to it being a bastard case.

May I suggest a 9.3 x 62 instead?

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Posts: 18352 | Location: Salt Lake City, Utah USA | Registered: 20 April 2002Reply With Quote
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The 376 was neither fish nor fowl as it won't fit into a short-action and it doesn't offer much of anything over what's available in a standard action....even Jeff Cooper doesn't really like it as part of the Scout concept.
If Winchester or Remington ever bring their shorties out in .375 it will really be dead.
 
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Well, Steyr has not dropped the .376 Steyr, but they did discontinue it in the Steyr Scout model. It is still offered in the Steyr ProHunter, and I have one of those rifles.

And yes, Jeff Cooper still likes his "Dragoon" in .376 -- he likes the name but it makes the Steyr folks cringe. I thought it was a poor match in the Steyr Scout model of the SBS 96 rifle because it limits that otherwise general purpose rifle to a special purpose. I expect to see him at the SCI show, and I will ask him his current opinion.

The .376 Steyr was created from the 9.3X64 case by shortening that case to 60 mm, and opening it to 9.5 mm (.375"). The 9.3X64 Brenneke case is hardly a bastard lash-up, it is equivalent to the .375 H&H in power.

I have swapped the bolts between my .308 Steyr Scout and my .376 ProHunter -- they are both the same length. So you get pretty much the power of the .375 H&H in an action that normally uses the .308.

In my opinion the .376 Steyr has suffered most from poor or insufficient marketing. With Steyr's change of North American importer, perhaps that will change. Also there is more information coming out on the use of the cartridge in the field in the German language gun press.

I have talked to Steyr about getting more field experiences in their advertising, maybe they will and again maybe they won't.

As for Remington and Winchester bringing out .375 versions of the WSM and SAUM, those prospects are definite maybes. If they do, you will see some marketing support though.

I used my .376 to take a 2,000 pound eland in Zim last fall with the 270-grain factory load from Hornady. I expect that Gererd's 270 grain FN will do well as a solid. My website has a photo of me, the .376 and the eland.

http://www.safari21.com


In my opinion the .376 Steyr is a modernized 9.3X62 that can make use of the many, many excellent .375" bullets on the market -- while at the same time be made up in a handy, short rifle. My is under 40", and weighs about 9 pounds ready to hunt.

I got my rifle by trying a loaner from the distributor that I received for an article for African Hunter, but I liked it so well that I bought it from them.


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Posts: 4166 | Location: San Diego, CA USA | Registered: 14 November 2001Reply With Quote
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Suluuq,

I forgot to add that the Hodgkin's online manual has data, as well as the new Hornady manual.

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Posts: 4166 | Location: San Diego, CA USA | Registered: 14 November 2001Reply With Quote
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The .376 Steyr like the 9,3 x 62 are absolute minimums if dangerous game is hunted. I have some reservations about the complexity of the Steyr SBS design and about reccomending a push feed gun for dangerous game. The round itself will be re introduced by Steyr this fall with sveral other guns. They are back in business and want to be in the US market. As a general hunting round it works a few of our clients have used them in the past with effect similar to the .375 and the 9,3. The 270 grs bullet is the favorite with the clients because it allows flexibility on game. I would not debate on the merits of this vs that if you can shoot then shoot it, hunt long and live well. We are dealing with minor variables here. You punch a big hole with a heavy bullet through an Eland at a resonable velocity in the right spot it will die. The eland will not be debating which round is better. It will be dead.

PS I have a scout .308 and SSG on order, I have had two pro hunters in the past and they shot really well.

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Posts: 1573 | Location: USA, most of the time  | Registered: 11 March 2002Reply With Quote
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I don't know what length action Steyr puts it's .308 in, but I do know that the .376 Steyr will not fit in a Rem 700 short-action and I doubt it will fit into the Winchester Model 70 either.....Steyr .376 case length is 2.36" and the OAL is listed as 3.11".

This doesn't mean it isn't a good round for Africa and I subscribe to the theory as expressed by alekkojensen....if you like it, shoot it. All to often we get caught up in looking for the perfect round, the perfect scope, the perfect mounts and the perfect rifle...use a good bullet and good judgement in shot placement and you've covered 95% of the problem.

 
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alekojjensen,

Do you know of any Cape buffalo taken with the .376 Steyr?

thanks...jim dodd

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Posts: 4166 | Location: San Diego, CA USA | Registered: 14 November 2001Reply With Quote
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I can vouch for the .376 Steyr as well, since I took the picture of Jim and his eland. I really enjoyed the insightful comment about the eland not debating the merits of the .376, since it was already dead! LOL!

Steyr is not going away as a company, nor will it's support of it's new baby, the .376 Steyr. They have too much invested on all levels to just let it wither away. Bankrupt or not, someone will come up with the capital to keep them afloat.

The boys here in Georgia love those SBS rifles. Mickey at the Bargain Barn tells me that they are some of their best sellers, and everyone is happy about their accuracy too. The ability to use a plethora of .375 H&H bullets is not to be discounted either.

Gentlemen, you can't kill them deader than dead, and I can testify that Jim's eland was "graveyard dead"! It took a winch, eight guys, and a fair amount of cussing to load him up on the bakkie.

BTW, here is the link to the Hornady website:

http://www.hornady.com

Cheers,

Alan

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In regards to the Buffalo question the answer is no. I do not nor have I witness anyone shoot a buffalo with the .376. I am sure with the correct bullets the .376 will aquit itself well like the 9,3. Hit the buff well once and he will go down.
 
Posts: 1573 | Location: USA, most of the time  | Registered: 11 March 2002Reply With Quote
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Hunter Jim, others... Thanks for the info.
I'll be buying a Hornady load book soon. I've seen the Hodgden web site, and have the Steyr info on hand. Thanks. ~~~Suluuq
 
Posts: 854 | Location: Kotzebue, Ak. | Registered: 25 December 2001Reply With Quote
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While I don't see the 376 Steyr ever becoming very popular, I think it will hang on the way the 350 Rem Mag has. It's ballistic properties are almost identical to the 9.3x62. In my eyes this makes it a serious big game cartridge. It might be legal in places that ban the 9.3's from use on dangerous game. The best reason I can think of is that it fits perfectly in a model 70 classic compact. It's only real drawback is that it doesn't have that extra little bit of velocity that I and many others want. It's a pity that cartridge may die.


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DOC... I am not too concerned about not necessarily matching the H&H speeds, but it would make for a nice Alaskan hunting rifle. ~~~Suluuq
 
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