What is there is that country to hunt?

Snakes.

Is there any predators there ? Any type of deer or Antelope ?

for all the supposed biodiversity, there isn't much if anything to shoot.

http://www.wildmadagascar.org/wildlife/mammals.html

the home page lists all creatures by catagory

Did I mention snakes?

There's no Madagascarian Bigfoot ... ??

Must be too muggy with too many snakes ... does anyone know if Bigfoot like snakes ... ??

What kind of snakes? Cobra's ?

quote:

Originally posted by IronWorker378:
Is there any predators there ?

Ferocious man eating lemurs!

This one is perched over a native he just eviscerated:



This one is seconds away from attacking:



I hope this helps.



Brett

A couple of years ago I received a mail from Phasa asking for any volunteers getting little pay to shoot domesticated goats that has gone wild and destroying the natural habitat.

Can anyone remember the mail ?

Cobras? Does it matter? Snakes man! Venomous ones. Deadly venomous ones.

quote:

Originally posted by Safari-Hunt:... shoot domesticated goats that has gone wild and destroying the natural habitat.

You mean what little bit is left and the locals had not already cut dowm??

Keith

So these Lemurs they're varmints right? Can you call them in? Think about it 55gr V-Max in the neck.Just say "No" to the snakes.

quote:

Originally posted by IronWorker378:
So these Lemurs they're varmints right? Can you call them in? Think about it 55gr V-Max in the neck.Just say "No" to the snakes.

No you can't call them in, you have to bait them with largish baits just the same way as you would hunt a Leopard.

Whatever you do, don't wound one, as a night time follow up on lemur is a very dangerous thing and you'll see those teeth are built to do serious damage.

You can often get get PAC lemur permits issued for man eaters, but to take advantage of these offers, you need to able to get there very quickly, because once they start man eating, they usually stop all their other hunting and concentrate solely on humans...... which is why it's so rare to come across a Madasgascan.

How big our those Lemurs ? Your saying they will attack humans?

They're about the size of an orang-utang but considerably more aggressive and they become especially dangerous when they hunt in packs, which they usually do during the mating season.

You asked about calling them in. There is actually one method that will work on a full moon, but only on the night a full moon. All you do is imitate a giraffe call and if there's any lemur around, they'll come running in, as apart from humans, giraffe appears their favourite meat.

I hunted one back in 2003 and the damn thing charged our light and severely injured the lead tracker. He made the mistake of grabbing its very long tail and apparently got part of the Lemur's nuts as well. It took 6 shots from my .375 to finally put the Lemur down, but not before he'd chewed half of the tracker's arm off. And then, a whole troop of Lemurs came out of nowhere and surrounded us, as we backed towards the truck. One scary moment, that's for sure! By the way, at night and on that full moon their eyes glow a very bright kryponite green!!! Next time I'll hire a more seasoned PH like Shakari to hunt Lemur. By the way,I have now been told by my former Madagascan PH that the tracker that was attacked on my Lemur hunt, now on a full moon, acts very strange, and will disappear for 3-4 days. What would cause that Shakari?

The problem with hunting Lemurs is that pretty much all clients want to come around the fullmoon and that means the PH and staff have to spend 3 weeks or so between hunts doing nothing. All we can do is entertain ourselves by going fishing etc, but this of course means the cost of a lemur hunt seems very unnecessarily high.

Sadly there's no getting away from the fact that there's no such thing as a cheap lemur hunt.

The good news is they're very soft skinned and are not usually hard to kill (unless they're really enraged, but when this happens, a real stopper of .500 or larger is needed if you hope to stop them in their tracks) that popular African calibre the 45/70 seems to be the weapon of choice for most lemur hunters.

So were talking a 100 lbs ? what a powerful animal.

quote:

Originally posted by IronWorker378:
So were talking a 100 lbs ? what a powerful animal.

No, bigger. A big male would be about the same weight as a Leopard. Maybe 180-200 lbs. And when they become enraged, they're very hard to stop indeed. (IMO) second only in tenacity to a Buffalo.

Wikapedia says there less then 30Lbs and 4 feet long.

This thread is out of control

quote:

Originally posted by IronWorker378:
Wikapedia says there less then 30Lbs and 4 feet long.

No shit!!!! Maybe they're talking about the lesser lemur rather than the greater lemur.



Sorry buddy, my hair trigger sense of humour got the better of me!

No Lemur is close to a 100lbs. The greater Lemur eats bamboo and is brown. So the one pictured is a Ringtale Lemur.What kind of Lemur chew up a PH arm and took 5 shot from a 375.... I just want to do some varmint hunting in Madagascar,what about the Fossa ? Shame they don't have any coyotes over there?

I was pulling your leg.......... Don't expect to find much at all to hunt there. I believe Use Enough gUn shot the last of the maneating lemurs a few years ago.

I unnderstand the fishing is pretty good though........

If you research Roland Ward and SCI records, you'll find several photos of Use Enough Gun, his PH, trackers, and the lemur to which he refers. You can still see the stress of the experience in his eyes.
And if you look real close at the surrounding bush---you'll see several snakes.

Shakari

You've made me bust a gut!

quote:

Originally posted by kibokolambogo:
Shakari

You've made me bust a gut!
:l:

Sometimes my sense of humour just gets the better of me and I just HAVE to give it free rein.

I'm probably gonna be chuckling about it all evening.

I lived in Madagascar for three years and went duck hunting four or five times. This was organized with friends, at that time there wasn't a single organization offering hunts to the tourist.

As far as I know the only large mammal which is legal to hunt is the Giant Forest Hog. I sat several nights in a tree near Morandava, for most of the night, waiting for one to appear. I have yet to see one, anywhere for that matter.

Lastly, you can only import smoothbores, no rifles allowed. There may be several tourist outfitters who can arrange a hunt but you will have to contact them and hope their English is good enough for you to feel confident dealing with them. Here's one possibility:

http://www.capmadagascar.fr/2/...view&id=28&Itemid=54

Wink what kind of gun laws in France do you have to submit to ?

Shakari & UEG,



I see I created a monster on this one. I was darn near crying when I read this post.

Brett

quote:

Originally posted by IronWorker378:
Wink what kind of gun laws in France do you have to submit to ?

IronWorker, Over the last few years I have posted probably dozens of posts about firearms ownership in France on AR but can't for the life of me remember under which categories they were posted. Take a look in the European Hunting category and do a search and hopefully you'll land on them. But they have also been posted under the African Travelling category and maybe even under the Political forum.

But the short version is: I joined a gun club and I can own just about anything I want but there are limits to the total number of handguns I can own. You have to jump through bureaucratic hoops for handguns and for any rifles chambered in a caliber used in a military firearm. I own 5 handguns, 7 bolt action rifles and 3 shotguns. Of the weapons I own, only the handguns require any bureaucracy. I can purchase any reloading equipment, primers, powders and bullets I can find on the international market, except for the powders for which I can only buy what is sold in France (Vectan and VihtaVuori). I can also buy a suppressor (silencer) at any time for any firearm.

I see you are in California so be advised that we can still buy black cars in France.

Be advised I drive a Black Ford Ranger 4x4.I'm seriously considering changing the transmission fluid..

Watch out for those over-grown ring-tailed lemurs, they will eviscerate a human in seconds if given the chance! However, I think the aye-aye is far more frightening....just one look can kill! As for venomous snakes though...you should have little fear in Madagascar.

I'm thinking you ALL need to step away from those crack pipes and stop hyperventilating so dern much.

Rich
Buff Killer

'scuse me, in Shikari's case I meant hyperpontificating. Semantics, y'know.

Rich
Buff Killer

The oke asked a serious question.

Shakari, you are a Pom. You had to learn this stuff. Did Lionel Palmer, Selby et al give you the same sarcsm?

Oh, Sh-t, you would have to bring up the real monster in Madagascar, the GIANT Forest Hog. Now that's a beast to reckon with, especially on a moonlit night. You REALLY don't want to know what happened when I ran into one of those while hunting in Madagascar a few years back. I ended up telling Shakari all about it. I just needed to tell someone at the time, and I called Shakari. Shakari was, well. . . .as close to an African shrink/witch doctor as I could find, as they had transported me to Phaloborwa after the incident for a psychiatric evaluation. What a traumatic experience that was!!! I still get traumatized when I even think about it. In fact, when the movie "Madagascar" came out I was the only member of the family that could not go and see it!

quote:

Originally posted by dyker:
The oke asked a serious question.

Shakari, you are a Pom. You had to learn this stuff. Did Lionel Palmer, Selby et al give you the same sarcsm?

'Fraid I didn't have to learn my (very English)sense of humour, it just came naturally to me in spades and sometimes, in fact, often, gets the better of me......... the humour was after all pretty obvious and even had plenty of laughing graemlins etc and certainly no offence was intended. I actually thought it was funny as hell.

Life would be awfully boring if you couldn't laugh at it huh

Maybe I should add a line to my signature that says, "warning, hair trigger sense of humour"

It's OK Steve ... some of us have the same affliction and are equally unappreciated ...

On a serious note we're planning an August Swamp Ape hunt if you'd like to join us.

Swamp apes!.......... count me in and please put me down for 3 at least!

I'll be up that way anyway as I have an appointment with the CAR naval dept so it's only a hop, skip and a jump from there to the to the swamps anyway.