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Hey, unless you guys want to talk about whether your fat paunches have been a hindrance on safari, please take the bickering elsewhere. Many thanks. Razzer
 
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I want to perform to my maximum potential. Condition is a big part of any hunt. If you carry a 10-11 pound elphant rifle around in 100-120 degree heat for up to 20 miles a day, you had better be in shape.

Every year it is a little bit harder.



As Terry said, having that goal in front of you developes good habits before the hunt.

I went hunting recovering from a collapsed lung and was not half the man I expected to be but would not give that experience up for the world.

Condition is important to me. And to your PH and other hunting companions.

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I'm going to Mozambique in 9/2010. I'm starting NOW on getting in shape. I'm 46 and though not overweight, I am "soft". I go to the gym 5 days a week for strength training and am walking/jogging most mornings around 2.5 miles. I plan to buy one of those weighted sticks (they're around 48" long and can be bought up to 30 lbs.) that weighs around 12 lbs and will walk/jog with that during the last year of my training.

I've been on a challenging hunt while "soft". It was not enjoyable at all, and I can remember the guide's look of disgust that I couldn't keep up (but hey, we were at 9000 ft) and kept stopping to rest. I will not again go into what may become a life or death situation without being in the best possible shape. Just my 2 cents.


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500grains,
Here is an excerpt from my draft, unfinished hunting report for my Cape Buff hunt in 2006. Hopefully this is more what you had in mind. Smiler Apologies for disrupting one of your threads with bickering. Razzer

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TRAINING AND CONDITIONING
This section of the report should be my opportunity to wax eloquent about all the wonderful things that I did to get physically prepared for the hunt, so that you can take some of my great successes and build on them for yourself. The truth is, I did some good things but I was not nearly as well prepared as I’d like to have been. Part of the reason for that is because I should have worked out harder before the trip, and part of it is because of what I learned while on my trip that I did not anticipate while getting ready. As a result, however, I will definitely be better prepared next time as I will work harder and smarter. Hopefully you will find something in what follows that will help you too. For those of you that have been there and done that and conditioning is not a concern to you, feel free to skip to the next section.

Leading up to the hunt, it was my objective to weigh in the vicinity of 205 lbs. I am 6' 2" tall and 205 lbs has been a good weight for me...when in my best ‘sheep shape’ that was where I normally tipped the scales to.

Just after Christmas of 2005 (t minus 9 months), I weighed 235 lbs -- by far the fattest and softest I have ever been in my life. I am a forester and for most of my career I got a lot of field time, hiking around the mountains year-round laying out cutblocks and road locations, doing terrain and vegetation assessments, etc. The ratio of field to office work declined over the years though, and since 2002 I literally haven’t left the office, except to travel to other offices. And it caught up to me!

Not wanting my 'hunt of a lifetime' to be limited in any way by my physical conditioning, the minute I ran out of leftover turkey I started working on a regular exercise routine. I figured 9 months would give me plenty of time. With my busy business travel schedule it was tough, but I did what I could and started to build back my stamina and strength. Unfortunately, I think I pushed a little too hard a little too quickly and in Feb/06 my lower back “spasmed†on me for the first time in my life. That truly sucked. I could not get out of bed for 4 days. I vowed never to make fun of the “old guys†at the office with their “tricky backs†again. It took 6 whole weeks before I could start to walk any significant distance and even then I had a number of setbacks. It didn’t seem to matter what I did, no matter how benign, my lower back muscles would start to cramp on me again.

As a result, I didn’t really get back to exercising in earnest again until June (t minus 3 months!). I would hike on various trails in our local community forest for about an hour, 4 times a week. I was carrying a 12lb dumbbell, and in the last few weeks before the hunt I was also carrying a 35lb pack on my back.

Knowing it would be pretty hot in Tanzania in August/September, I even timed the weekend workout sessions so that I would be hiking in the hottest part of the day. I managed to workout a few times in 30 deg C temperatures and thought that would help, even though the climate here is very dry and there is almost always ‘cooling’ mountain breezes. Due to my work schedule (long days), however, on weekdays I had to go before work, when it was cool.

By the time the trip came, I thought I was doing pretty well. Afterall, I live at 4000 ft....I really wasn’t sure what I’d do with all that surplus oxygen at 800 ft in Tanzania!!! And Tanzania is dead flat...right? NOT, on both counts!

Before I go into my trials and tribulations during the hunt, I should note that when I left for Tanzania I weighed 215 lbs. I didn’t achieve my objective, but I did lose 20lbs. Unfortunately, that wasn’t quite enough. You see, Don and I had a little bet going. Whoever lost the most weight by the time we left for Tanzania, didn’t have to buy the beer at the Sea Cliff. Don beat me by a pound!! You can see it on his face....



I had a helluva time on my first couple days of hunting. It turns out that Tanzania is pretty darn HOT, at least to me anyway, and very humid….. Where I live it gets to 30 deg C (85 deg F) about 10 to 15 days a year, and that’s only in the afternoon. But its always dry here. Tracking buff the first two days was brutal on me. For some reason, I couldn’t sweat very much. My face was beet red and I felt like my body temp was over 40 deg C. I was getting headaches and dizzy spells. It was not fun. Of special note is the fact that Dwight (Saeed’s good friend and great guy) was with Don and I both of these days and was able out-walk me once the heat really set in and I felt like passing out. Dwight is over 60 and quite enjoyed kicking my butt. I think he asked me how old I was about 6 times. Big Grin

After that, though, I became acclimated and did OK. Walking-wise at least, I was in good enough shape. BUT, that’s only part of buff hunting. What I didn’t prepare for was all the walking hunched over, hunkering down behind bushes, leopard crawling, crab walking, etc, etc. My legs weren’t in great shape for all the squats/deep knee bends associated with those types of motion, nor were my arms and shoulders in shape for the sustained crawling. I did alright, generally speaking, but I was not pleased with myself. Only a few years ago (before the steady diet of office work and travel), that activity would have been nothing for me. Its amazing how quickly it goes.

If you think you are in good shape for this type of activity, I suggest you try crawling a couple hundred yards across a field with a 12 lb dumbbell. At the end of that, also keep in mind that you may be in a position to shoot at a cape buffalo. At least then you will KNOW if you are in sufficient shape.

For next time, here is what I’d do different.

I’d still do the long walks/hikes a 3 to 4 times a week, including the 12lb dumbbell (to simulate your rifle) and a backpack (carrying weight for short hikes makes long hikes without it seem so much easier). But, I would change up the pace more often. Frequently while tracking buffalo, we’d have to break into a trot for a while to close the distance more quickly. Mixing some trotting/jogging in to your walks/hikes would really help out here, especially if you are prone to shin splints from jogging.

I’d also mix in lots of crawling, crouching, squatting, crabwalking, etc during the walks/hikes. It might be embarrassing if you are doing this in a public place, but man, you sure end up doing a lot of it when in the vicinity of the buffalo and it will really help if your legs and arms are stronger.

I’d also do more anaerobic (resistance) exercise than I did. Lifting weights (upper and lower body) would also really help with the crawling/crabwalking.

Here is a great exercise program called the “Six Minute Hill†(from the Grand Slam Club website) for getting into “sheep shapeâ€. I think this would work just as well for getting into “cape shapeâ€, especially with the pushups that are included. Click here for a .pdf file of it.

Finally, I’d work a lot harder on being “acclimatized†to heat before I get there. This probably does not apply to you if you already live in a hot or humid climate, but for the rest of you, do not underestimate the effects of heat and the debilitating nature of heat stroke! To alleviate this, I would wear additional clothing while working out to ensure I ‘break a good bead’ and get good and drenched with sweat on every workout. You really want to make sure your body is accustomed to going through water, and so you need to sweat lots and drink lots. I’d seriously consider finding a sauna that I could spend some time in after work outs too.


Cheers,
Canuck



 
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577NitroExpress,I strongly suggest you go on a diet because someone might mistake you for a hippo.
 
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577NitroExpress,I strongly suggest you go on a diet because someone might mistake you for a hippo.


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After that, though, I became acclimated and did OK. Walking-wise at least, I was in good enough shape. BUT, that’s only part of buff hunting. What I didn’t prepare for was all the walking hunched over, hunkering down behind bushes, leopard crawling, crab walking, etc, etc. My legs weren’t in great shape for all the squats/deep knee bends associated with those types of motion, nor were my arms and shoulders in shape for the sustained crawling. I did alright, generally speaking, but I was not pleased with myself. Only a few years ago (before the steady diet of office work and travel), that activity would have been nothing for me. Its amazing how quickly it goes.

I’d still do the long walks/hikes a 3 to 4 times a week, including the 12lb dumbbell (to simulate your rifle) and a backpack (carrying weight for short hikes makes long hikes without it seem so much easier). But, I would change up the pace more often. Frequently while tracking buffalo, we’d have to break into a trot for a while to close the distance more quickly. Mixing some trotting/jogging in to your walks/hikes would really help out here, especially if you are prone to shin splints from jogging.

I’d also mix in lots of crawling, crouching, squatting, crabwalking, etc during the walks/hikes. It might be embarrassing if you are doing this in a public place, but man, you sure end up doing a lot of it when in the vicinity of the buffalo and it will really help if your legs and arms are stronger.


Great advice Canuck.

Ozzie is hot, so we are used to that here, but the crab walking, crawling etc is a lot different from just lugging a rifle, walking. thumb


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I think if I expect the PH and outfitter to do their part, then I need to look after the things that I can control. Research the hunt, exercise so fittness isn't an issue and practise shooting, off sticks and from various field positions.
Luck is what happens when preparation and opportunity meet. (Or something like that)
 
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Don't get your knickers in a knot Mike. Its a legit question. I think all your bannings have made you a little defensive. You used to have much thicker skin.

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Canuck,

It might be a legit question but why keep pushing to the point...must be to provoke me.

I thought as a moderator at least one of your roles would have threads run smooth and trouble free as opposed to throwing some petrol on a tiny fire.

If other people had not queried why a fitness movie was moved from the African forum I would have let it go. The end of the rope jumping (it lasts for whole 50 seconds) allows the viewer to go Ross Enamaits full training regimes.

This thread was moved from Big Bores by George. No complaint from me. Ask him about the PM he got.

https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3221043/m/590100346

I will finish the subject with this post otherwise I will just get myself in the shit.

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Don't get your knickers in a knot Mike. Its a legit question. I think all your bannings have made you a little defensive. You used to have much thicker skin.

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Canuck,

It might be a legit question but why keep pushing to the point...must be to provoke me.

I thought as a moderator at least one of your roles would have threads run smooth and trouble free as opposed to throwing some petrol on a tiny fire.

If other people had not queried why a fitness movie was moved from the African forum I would have let it go. The end of the rope jumping (it lasts for whole 50 seconds) allows the viewer to go Ross Enamaits full training regimes.

This thread was moved from Big Bores by George. No complaint from me. Ask him about the PM he got.

https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3221043/m/590100346

I will finish the subject with this post otherwise I will just get myself in the shit.

Mike


Hey Mike,

I take it that you are off to do some exercise with Sue. Big Grin

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........Australian,s like Alaskan,s like to fued and fight alot bewildered....The reason I recomend deep knee bends. { for those who didn,t destroy their bodies being a jock ] . It is a good exercise that really helps strengthen increase lung function and it really helps with balance,,,,,,,,, It can be done by very busy people who don,t have alot of time.....My hat,s way off to Andy ,500 gr , JPK ,,ECT ECT ECT ....Walking as many miles as they did in the heat and lugging a real rifle salute.....I have to get in shape for work ,.,....Falling timber in coastal Alaska......One of the most dangerous and phsycially demanding jobs on earth....And I,m just a short fat guy ......However from a life time of this kind of work I have always maintained a good amount of core ability........Yesterday I was playing around at my favorite outdoor exercise.......Shooting snowshoeing,,,,, with my dogs.......Down here @ sealevel there is only 4-5 ft. of packed snow so the shoes are necessary.....And it gives great shooting practice........I was useing my Interarms 458 loaded w/ 350 gr Hornady @ 2450 fps.........All my shooting is offhand and much of it is with my heart really banging around in my chest.....I try to cut down little trees with 3 shots...I seem to always shoot ,right ,center ,left ,..I have a 2.5x scope on that rifle and it makes for good practice .. I shoot from 20- 75 yards.usually........It,s not quite as simple as being at the range ,.,.,.I have to keep track of my dogs ,one of which likes to step on the tail of my snowshoes Mad..Walk a couple miles in snowshoes and you will know you did something..... My bigest concern if I can go to Africa is the heat..............I have seen the thermometer reach 102 deg F here in Hoonahlulu and I tried working in it but was unable to ........There is nothing like walking / clamboring thru the woods with a rifle to get you in shape for doing likewise.........Good thing about shooting your safari rifle is it is easier to see your bullet holes in trees.......Just my 2 cents worth.......


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gumboot, I have not hunted Alaska, but from my experience backpack hunting the lower 48 I would imagine that a serious hunt in Alaska would be much more challenging than the average African hunt. Packing moose quarters through the alders while wearing hip boots must be a bit more difficult than sitting under a tree gnawing on elephant meat shish kebobs while the blacks load hide panels and slabs of meat into the truck. Smiler
 
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I practice martial arts while im not guiding and i consider it a good manner of being in shape ,besides that you always have the feeling of figthing another predator that you feel in DG.I guided some guides from Alaska here and they told me they run 10 kms a day just to be in shape in the pre season prep,i can tell they walked a lot and killed almost all my partrige pheasants and ducks.Juan


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I take it that you are off to do some exercise with Sue.


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I take it that you are off to do some exercise with Sue.


Yes, a version of push ups Big Grin


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Play the video. It will get you ready for the 460 Smiler

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gumboot, I have not hunted Alaska, but from my experience backpack hunting the lower 48 I would imagine that a serious hunt in Alaska would be much more challenging than the average African hunt. Packing moose quarters through the alders while wearing hip boots must be a bit more difficult than sitting under a tree gnawing on elephant meat shish kebobs while the blacks load hide panels and slabs of meat into the truck. Smiler


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Walking-wise at least, I was in good enough shape. BUT, that’s only part of buff hunting. What I didn’t prepare for was all the walking hunched over, hunkering down behind bushes, leopard crawling, crab walking, etc, etc. My legs weren’t in great shape for all the squats/deep knee bends associated with those types of motion, nor were my arms and shoulders in shape for the sustained crawling...I’d also mix in lots of crawling, crouching, squatting, crabwalking, etc during the walks/hikes.
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