10 August 2016, 01:25
FrostbitThe Cecil factor and Wolves in Alaska
I'm putting this in the African Hunting forum because I posted more than once during the Cecil media debacle that if American hunters, including whitetail deer, turkey, and hog hunters don't wake up and unify they too will be next.
"Storied Alaska wolf pack beloved for decades has vanished, thanks to huntingRead it and weep. The onslaught on domestic hunting has begun.
Wake up!!
10 August 2016, 03:43
BrettAKSCIFor what it's worth the article was inaccurate. The new USF&W regulations did not ban predator hunting. What it did was:
"Methods and Means of Take of Wildlife:
• Prohibits the following particularly effective methods and means for non-subsistence take of
predators on refuges in Alaska due to the potential impacts to predator populations and the
environment that are inconsistent with the Service’s mandates to conserve the natural and
biological diversity, biological integrity and environmental health on refuges in Alaska:
o Take of bear cubs or sows with cubs (exception allowed for resident hunters to take
black bear cubs or sows with cubs under customary and traditional use activities at
a den site October 15 – April 30 in specific game management units in accordance
with state regulations).
o Take of brown bears over bait.
o Take of bears using traps or snares.
o Take of wolves or coyotes from May 1 – August 9.
o Take of bears from an aircraft or on the same day as air travel has occurred. (Same
day airborne take of wolves or wolverines is already prohibited under current refuge
regulations.)"
The really big deal in all this aside from a loss of intensive predator management is the NPS and USFWS making a precedent to supersede Alaskan state wildlife management as outlined under ANILCA.
(***Non Alaskans*** ANILCA is an act between the state of Alaska and the federal government from the early 80's that outlined management authorities for both the state and federal government. Essentially it said the state has sole fish and wildlife management authority on all federal lands not congressionally designated as "Wilderness". Even on wilderness lands the feds have deferred to state management, but ANILCA outlines that state management should be in keeping with the intent of the Wilderness Act on wilderness lands. That is the beef here.)
Brett
10 August 2016, 04:44
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by BrettAKSCI:
For what it's worth the article was inaccurate. The new USF&W regulations did not ban predator hunting. What it did was:
"Methods and Means of Take of Wildlife:
• Prohibits the following particularly effective methods and means for non-subsistence take of
predators on refuges in Alaska due to the potential impacts to predator populations and the
environment that are inconsistent with the Service’s mandates to conserve the natural and
biological diversity, biological integrity and environmental health on refuges in Alaska:
o Take of bear cubs or sows with cubs (exception allowed for resident hunters to take
black bear cubs or sows with cubs under customary and traditional use activities at
a den site October 15 – April 30 in specific game management units in accordance
with state regulations).
o Take of brown bears over bait.
o Take of bears using traps or snares.
o Take of wolves or coyotes from May 1 – August 9.
o Take of bears from an aircraft or on the same day as air travel has occurred. (Same
day airborne take of wolves or wolverines is already prohibited under current refuge
regulations.)"
The really big deal in all this aside from a loss of intensive predator management is the NPS and USFWS making a precedent to supersede Alaskan state wildlife management as outlined under ANILCA.
(***Non Alaskans*** ANILCA is an act between the state of Alaska and the federal government from the early 80's that outlined management authorities for both the state and federal government. Essentially it said the state has sole fish and wildlife management authority on all federal lands not congressionally designated as "Wilderness". Even on wilderness lands the feds have deferred to state management, but ANILCA outlines that state management should be in keeping with the intent of the Wilderness Act on wilderness lands. That is the beef here.)
Brett
Brett,
The bolded is exactly my point. The Camel's nose is under the tent flap. Now more inaccurate articles by the likes of MSNBC and the biased news outlets, the later uproar on social media about the "extinction" of the wild Alaska wolf ..... step by step......
Then USF&W DOES shut down Wolf and Bear hunting on Fed land.
The present Alaskan administration is not going to fight the feds on it's breach of ANILCA.
Cheers
Jim
10 August 2016, 06:51
ledvmIf Hillary is elected POTUS...the USF&WS will run roughshod over hunters worldwide...aided by the Clinton Foundation.
10 August 2016, 07:00
NavalukAs we get close to starting a new fall hunting season here in the US, it is becoming even more clear that the group of people who are most likely to limit my pursuit of Life, Liberty and Happiness are my fellow Americans and not the ISIS types.