New Zambia # 1 buffalo



New # 1 Zambia lion (I guess they mean #1 with a handgun??)

Now what?
Can anyone see the pictures? I can't and i did the same procedure as I have always done in the past...

Anyone out there that can make them "appear"

I tried to open them as well -- unsuccessfully. Can anyone post these??

Send them to me at Photos_at_NitroExpress.com and I will post them for you.

Substitute a @ for the _at_ .

(Can see them now - thanks Terry)

Bwanamich,

The code is [IMG]picture url[/IMG]

We have had problems with Imagestation pictures posting since we went to the new software.

I have had to switch to www.photobucket.com with all of my pictures.

I edited your post with the correct code but the Imagestation pics won't post (just get the box with the red X).

I was able to retrieve the pictures and hosted them on photbucket. I edited your post and added the pics.

Regards,

Terry

Hah! Now the buff picture is visible but the lion not!

I have given the info to NitroX who will attempt to post when he get's my PM...

Comments on the buffalo?

I edited your post and added the pics (after I hosted them on photobucket).

Regards,

Terry

The buffalo needs a haircut, he looks pretty soft and young to me.

Ugliest lion I have ever seen, is that really the #1 lion? He doesn't look that big to me. But what do I know?

Regards,

Terry

That is a great Buffalo, does anyone know what concession it was taken in? My guess would be either the upper, or lower Lupande, in the Luangwa Valley!

The lion looks a little scragly to me, though he is big, he's bald!

Bwanamich,

I hate to sound like a snob but neither of those animals appeal to me. The buffalo seems very young and I've turned down a truckload of lions better than that one. Perhaps he has a huge head that scores really well. On the other hand I'm sure the hunters had a wonderful hunt and are very please with their trophies and that is what really counts. Trophies like beauty are in the eye of the beholder.

Regards,

Mark

I concur with Terry. The buff appears to have a rather soft boss. However, what drop and spread. I would have had a VERY hard time not pulling the trigger! Surely that cannot be the #1 lion from Zambia. If it is, we all know where NOT to go to hunt lion!!

I think someone is making fun of us here.
As neither of these animals can remotely be called "trophies".

Bwanamich,

I won't comment on the lion; anybody with any lion experience has more experience than I do...

As Mr. Young correctly observed, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm sure that the buff pictured represents a lot of inches given his spread and the depth of his curl. I'm equally sure that he would have been safe as a babe in arms in front of me. I want my buffalo hard-headed, and will forego scoreable inches to get it.

To each his own; differences of opinion are what makes horse races. I'm sure the hunter(s) are happy...that's what's important. Thanks for posting the pics!

Good hunting,

Mark

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
I think someone is making fun of us here.
As neither of these animals can remotely be called "trophies".

Saeed,

Here Here, that buff is a baby. It's bloody shame that they didn't let him grow up. He's completely soft. I've turned down several buff that were very close that ole boy due to soft bosses. I'd rather shoot a hard topped narled up old 37" bull than that tender young boy.

Lion wouldn't be my first choice either.

This has got to be a joke,,right?

Greg

Actually, I have no problem with anyone shooting any animal they hunt.

But, don't call them "trophies".

I have shot several buffalo with soft bosses - but that did not distract from the actual hunt, and we enjoyed having them at dinner time.

Walter especially enjoyed the T-bone steaks.

If that lion is an old fellow, though battle scarred and bald I would say he is an excellent trophy! What a better trophy than a grand old lion past his prime. Saves him from the bastard hyaenas (a nice mane would be pleasant though). Maybe he is young - somebuddy who knows?


Can't comment on the buff as it does look soft and I like a hard boss. Not worried about the inches (something the women keep telling me ).

quote:

Originally posted by T.Carr:
The buffalo needs a haircut, he looks pretty soft and young to me.

Ugliest lion I have ever seen, is that really the #1 lion? He doesn't look that big to me. But what do I know?

Regards,

Terry

Terry, I'm not sure that isn't caked mud on the boss, it isn't clear enough to be sure though. I certainly agree on the lion, I'd rather have a big lioness!

Maybe they thought that buff was an eland with that nice bush up front Is he mature enough to shoot? No way, IMHO.

CFA

I don't think it is a joke. When they talk about #1 I assume they are referring to SCI scoring, which in this buffs case, should be quite high. I think this outlines one of the problems with the SCI scoring system on buff (and other animals) in that it "encourages" the taking of "younger" animals. Like most here have said, ever since I took my first couple of "soft bossed" buffs when i was starting off I now prefer taking hard bossed buffalo only!

I don't have a problem if someone takes a soft bossed mid-30 inch buff but IMO any soft bossed buff in the mid-40's or more should be left to "mature". Unfortunately, it doesn't occur very often as for most, "size does matter"

The lion is difficult to judge from that picture. 1st impression is that it is a "young" animal but on closer inspection it looks "old" enough. Although scruffy maned, it "could" be a 6+ year old cat with poor genetics in which case it would be a good "trophy". The total SCI score for that cat was stated as 26 3/16 which places it at # 16! That would indicate the cat is indeed an old specimen.

I thought these photos would show the different aspects of trophy quality in 2 of the most sought after DG animals by hunters today.

My humble opinion is that it is bad photography, the lion and buff look old enough. The buff have some caractor in the face.

Wimpie
A bad day in the bush is better than a good day at the office.