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Considering shopping for discounted, late October, early November buff hunt in Moz. Niassa or Cahora Bassa or different areas in Zim. The total cost is going to influence me a bit....

Anyone care to chime in on just how hot/humid it might get ? Anticipateded rains ? Tsetse’s ? For given areas.

Also, how much the temps & bush conditions can affect the enjoyment/success rates for a given hunt ?

Subjective to a degree but I’m interested in different opinions.

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I can tell you it is very hot in Chete at that time of year!

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I've hunted Dande and Makuti of Zim in October several times. I did it for the same reasons you state, being discounted hunts on left over quota.

Expect it to be the hottest experience you've ever had. There are ways to cope, at least for this Texan who's been around and somewhat used to the heat for years.

Take a small portable fan to place by your bed at night. Frogg Toggs soaked in water help tremendously as well. Take a couple of containers of powdered Gatoraid to help stay hydrated with electrolytes.

I didn't experience humidity, just oven baked heat bearing down on you from the sun and reflected back up from the ground. Tsetse's? Only occasionally and when around small water holes. Success rates? Pretty much 100%. Missed on one leopard but took 1 leopard in October as well. Took a male lion in October. Took several buffalo and elephant in the heat as well.

Enjoyment? I like hot much better than cold. I'm probably in the minority on that.
 
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Been on the Zim/Moz border 3 times in that time period. Hot but not humid so for me no problem and I live way up north. Hunting cats would be harder but buff ele hunting would be great just before the rain
 
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Bob,

Buffalo will be good at that time of year as they will not travel far from water. I hunted early Oct on the Save and it wasn't bad at all. Temps around a 100 F and dry. The fan as suggested is the trick. Hunting in general will be very good early and late in the day. Midday you'll have very little game movement. Good time for a siesta.

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Hot but not humid until rains come ( December)
But it would cool off nicely after sundown
And it is good time for buff and elephants


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I wouldn't want to be out of shape and over weight.That said it was not too bad but I may not have seen the worst of it in the two times I was there during that time of year.It's dry over there so it's not that bad.I've experienced much worst in the states in Virginia and the Carolinas.
 
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A few years back I hunted late October-early November in the Zimbabwe lowveld near and between Gwanda/West Nicholson for leopard and plains game. Shot my first leopard, a 59 1/2 inch kudu, sharpes grysbok, klipspringer, impala, baboon, etc.) It was hot. I slept with the windows open (probably not smart with snakes and spiders galore-they had just killed a banded cobra and a mamba in camp before I arrived), and on top of the sheets with the moz screen fully employed. The countryside literally changed within a few days, from little or no green, to full green. They refer to November as suicide month.
 
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Personally, I like the last safari of the year with the understanding that I get any leftover quota. Never hunted those areas but anywhere is going to be very hot that time of year. Stay hydrated. I got extremely dehydrated once due to the heat and a stalk that went a lot longer than anticipated. Legs turn to rubber and you feel really bad. Takes quite a while to recover once you get there, so don't.

Now, I drink till I slosh before leaving the gari, carry water with me and make sure one of the trackers has a backpack full of water. No incidents since.
 
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100 degrees F and low humidity?

That's called a mild summer here.


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I've hunted Dande and Makuti of Zim in October several times. I did it for the same reasons you state, being discounted hunts on left over quota.

Expect it to be the hottest experience you've ever had. There are ways to cope, at least for this Texan who's been around and somewhat used to the heat for years.

Take a small portable fan to place by your bed at night. Frogg Toggs soaked in water help tremendously as well. Take a couple of containers of powdered Gatoraid to help stay hydrated with electrolytes.

I didn't experience humidity, just oven baked heat bearing down on you from the sun and reflected back up from the ground. Tsetse's? Only occasionally and when around small water holes. Success rates? Pretty much 100%. Missed on one leopard but took 1 leopard in October as well. Took a male lion in October. Took several buffalo and elephant in the heat as well.

Enjoyment? I like hot much better than cold. I'm probably in the minority on that.

Everything Todd says is absolutely spot on, especially the battery operated fan and wet microfiber towel to help you sleep. Without the rest at night, the next days walk is brutal. I have hunted in Oct in Moz twice, Zim once and the Caprivi twice. It is brutal but with proper planning, it’s a good time to hunt.


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You guys are scaring me... I have a couple nontrophy bulls in Zim in December...
 
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Here is the "suicidal" climate graph.

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There is a huge difference between Harare which has one of the better climates in the world and the Zambezi Valley
 
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There is a huge difference between Harare which has one of the better climates in the world and the Zambezi Valley


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I have hunted in the Omay and Sengwa Research in October and November three different times and have been to Hwange in November and December.

The valley can be hot in those months but the hunting can be good. If you get rain in November (happened to me twice), game can really scatter and everything will turn green quickly. It can make for some difficult hunting.

Like I said it can be hot but not unbearable. For me, coming from a hot and extremely humid climate probably makes it a little easier to tolerate.

And one more thing, the tiger fishing can be fantastic on Lake Kariba in November.
 
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You guys are scaring me... I have a couple nontrophy bulls in Zim in December...

It will be cooler than Oct but you probably will have to contend with rain and mud.


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Get in reasonable shape. Find the hottest black parking lot and walk around and around at the hottest part of the day. Electrolyte replacement tablets (NUUN) worked for us several times.
Every time you stop walking for more than a minute drink a whole bottle of water. Drink, don’t sip, the whole thing every time. The guys don’t mind carrying water. It is better than carrying you!
The minute you don’t feel good, headache or suc. Stop and rest and drink, unless you insist on this you are headed for trouble and will lose days.

But most of all enjoy. It is a fantastic time to be there.


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You will get rain in November which cools things down. December is one of my favorite months to hunt and the rains will have not arrived in earnest.

october is generally hot and can be humid.


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There is a huge difference between Harare which has one of the better climates in the world and the Zambezi Valley


yeah right


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Mike is quite right . Check the elevation of Harare versus the safari areas. The elevation is higher . That is the difference.
 
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Solid replies Gentleman, thank you.

Looking at historical weather sites, these posts and quick emails back from potential outfitters, heat is a factor. Not a deal breaker but a real factor.

Couple that with my sense that the late season deals I'm seeing are good but not screaming, and I haven't seen low prices on left over quota, I have to decide whether the modest discounts offset the heat/potential early rains or should I just pony up the extra $ and go in prime season 2019.....

Something to ponder during September goose season.


Best to all,
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No discount could be big enough for me to go hunting when its hot. For me it should be fun and not torture. But that's me.

Another question: What is the coolest time in the hunting season in Masailand ?
I would appreciate some info as I like to hunt there next year.
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Peter,

Masailand is a kind of high desert. Even in Sept when I hunted there it was not uncomfortable.

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Thanks Mark, BUT what is the coolest time in Masailand in the hunting season ????
 
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Thanks Mark, BUT what is the coolest time in Masailand in the hunting season ????


Around July is typically coolest, I believe. In reality, temps don’t vary all that much through the year.
 
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Thanks Mark, BUT what is the coolest time in Masailand in the hunting season ????


Around July is typically coolest, I believe. In reality, temps don’t vary all that much through the year.



Masailand is pretty close to the equator.


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100 degrees F and low humidity?

That's called a mild summer here.


Exactly! Was that yesterday at my house. We call 110F very hot. This summer has been unusual for us. Not a lot of 100+ days, just a few but a lot of 98-100 days with >60% humidity many in 80% range. Humidity and heat sucks. But 100F and <30%...my kind of weather. Smiler


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What Dulcinea said about water in the heat. Stay ahead of it, don't fall behind. Been there. If you do, it's hard to catch up.

Coolest time in Masailand? Probably July. You'll need a sweater in the morning, but it will warm up by mid-day.
 
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Read "Months of the Sun" about hunting in the heat... I walked many miles in the afternoon Texas sun before my last trip (now over ten years ago). It was still not as hot as some of the late season reports I have seen.

I like to hunt early, although it can be a challenge if the grass is still high.
 
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