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The issuance of export permits for rifles manufactured in the RSA has also been adversely affected. I have a client awaiting the shipment of his custom .404 for nearly six months and he is rightfully furious.
 
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Who woulda thunk?



I feel sorry for these guys, because it is another example of what a passive attitude can get you.



Ganyana must be wrong, some things in Africa happen fast, like gun confiscation.



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African style bureaucracy hand in hand with the (worldwide) fallacy of restrictive gunlaws. Sounds like a sure recipe for disaster. The guys who bother to stay legal either can't obtain the weapons to protect their livelihoods or go bust trying to sell them. The criminals who could not care less about gunlaws have a field day. All brought to you by the politicians whose salaries you pay. Sad times, indeed.
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"Never ascribe to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity."

Napoleon

In this case probably both are working.

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With Thabo Mbeki's and his thugs controlling the country, be prepared for the worst

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I assume you got the entirety of your collection into Canada. What's gonna happen to all those other fine Mausers and doubles that didn't make it out?
 
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The negro prepared the situation for the moment they will drive out any white's from south africa, isn't it?
 
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pwm: Rascist?
 
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You probably said the same thing about Zimbabwe. They are racists, no?



The same will come down in SA, just taking a bit longer.



Where will the world outrage be, as when there was aparthied in SA? Nonexistent, you say?



I wouldn't say Alf is safe, as they are trying to pull the same crap in Canada, as in the UK, etc. Ain't the "world view" wonderful?
 
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pwm: I really don�t like people using words like spic, nigger, negro, wop, greaser, kike etc, it show�s bad taste.

urdubob: I�ve read about the chant, it�s true -and human.

Lets keep our fingers crossed that SA doesn�t go to shit like Zim did. It probably wouldn�t hurt to keep an open mind on issues though.

Bigotry is a sign of ignorance.
 
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cewe,

The black government in SA is treating the black citizens of SA far worse than the white minority government ever dreamed of. Unemployment is higher by an order of magnitude, as is the violent crime rate. In your zeal to condemn white on brown or white on black racism, don't show a double standard by not acknowledging black on white, black on brown or black on black racism (eg hutu/tutsi).

Disarming a populace is always a prelude to imprisonment and killing part or all of the populace.

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that may be
 
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Alf/Sunshine: Some more facts on Bushmen policy: When South Africa took over the administration of what today is Namibia they did much more for the Bushman than the British (let�s not even discuss German colonial policies...)ever had. We have the apartheid regime to thank for preserving much of their culture.

Just goes to show that no one thing is singularly bad.
 
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Alf: As mentioned in my latest post I base my "knowledge" (I wouldn�t qualify myself as deeply learned) on the writings of a South African who�s ancestors were one of the first to trek North and participated in the abovementioned Bushman< !--color--> "wars". Or are there different truths? Some more comfortable than others?




I believe it was the Xhosa and the Zulus and not the Bushman.

More info about the history of South Africa can be found here:
Brief History of South Africa
http://www.southafrica-travel.net/history/eh_menu.htm

-Bob F.
 
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What is morally wrong--as in the systematic oppression and dehumanization of a class or race of people--is wrong anywhere at any time and regardless of the race or nationality of the oppressed.

I have no patience or respect for those who uphold double standards of human treatment based on a so-called "historical" perspective.

Discrimination, racism and injustice can be practiced by any group against any other and must be condemned by right-thinking people wherever they occur, be it the USA or the RSA--to name just a couple of noteworthy places.

As Dr. King said in his letter from the Birmingham Jail in 1963, "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

These RSA gun laws are nothing more than a naked attempt to disarm, divest, disenfranchise and destroy a minority--incrementally, and perhaps a bit more humanely, but no less finally, than by "Mugabecide."

What began in South Africa and was hailed as a miracle of racial reconciliation is fast becoming a nightmare that I fear will be far worse for the whites under black rule that it ever was for the blacks under apartheid.
 
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BFaucet: Like I said it�s in van de Post�s book. He has written several books on the Bushman, made a documentary film for the BBC etc. I rest my case on the Bushman.

mrlexma: You are absolutely right, as was Dr King. I never said they were doing the right thing, historically speaking it is what happens though -the oppressed oppress. Look at Israel...
 
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MR, Well said! I completely agree with you about the intent of these new regulations.
 
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BFaucet: I really hope you have other sources for knowledge than the Internet. Buy a book and learn to read it.
 
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just a free minute and I will take my freedom to write: negro

I dont mean it bad, it was only for fun
 
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if you think humans are equal you are absolutly wrong, you will not find two
 
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pwm: I thank you for ending this discussion as it hasn�t really evolved for awhile.

BFaucet: My last post was a bit harsh, you have my apologies.

Merry X-mas
 
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Sorry to here about Dr Potgieter, he has a very good reputation. What will happen to the SA gun industry? Maybe they should try to break into the European market? I understand that fine semi-custom rifles are made on the M98 action by Truvelo and others.

Seasons greetings,

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