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Heading to Namibia to track eland. Usually I use a camp rifle and the camp ammo as it comes.

This time I am taking my 375H&H and would appreciate an opinion for my hand loads.
270GN TSX or 260GN or 300GN Accubonds ?

Many thanks
Stu
 
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If limited to just those three, the 270 TSX.

Personally, I'd load 300 grain A-Frames.
 
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From your choices i would take the 270 GN TSX. Barnes also makes a 300 GN TSX.

i have had great success with Barnes ammo & Bullets.


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Thanks folks for the quick replies.

I was kicking around the idea of the A frame but thought might be a bit tough for plains game?

I thought the TSX had to be driven fast so was staying away from the 300GN option and thinking the 270GN.

I gotta say the 270GN TSX is where I am leaning.

All part of the fun build up.

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I had good luck with the 270 gr. TSX on plains game. The largest I took was a kudu. I use RL-19 powder.
 
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Thanks Dale

What velocity were you getting?

What range were you shooting and did you recover any bullets? If yes what did they look like?

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Heading to Namibia to track eland. Usually I use a camp rifle and the camp ammo as it comes.

This time I am taking my 375H&H and would appreciate an opinion for my hand loads.
270GN TSX or 260GN or 300GN Accubonds ?

Many thanks
Stu


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Have you tried all of these in your rifle? If not, then advising you which is foolish since one or more of them might pattern like a shotgun.

If you have tried them, and all shoot to accurately enough for your purposes, then any will certainly take down a kudu in short order (even the monometal, which most of the time expands properly).

As for me, I'd take the one which shoots most accurately since a bullet's terminal performance is irrelevant if it doesn't hit its target as intended.
 
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As to velocity; Barnes site states that "It is nearly impossible for the TSX not to expand."

Personally, I'd be just fine with a 270gr TSX. That just represents a 300 grainer after 10% weight loss. 300gr Accubond would be fine. I would not use the 260 Accubond on Eland unless that's all I had & saw a big one. I took my only Eland to date with a .375 and 300gr Hornady Interbond.

Nowadays, if I were to carry my .375 it would be loaded with 300gr TSXs. I have used them on Buffalo twice, just like knowing that I have the extra SD on a quartering shot. Probably psychological, I bet the 270gr would be great on Buffalo/Eland size game.

Taking my son to Tholo in Botswana this July to track Eland (and other game). He's using a camp rifle, I'm treating it as DG practice and toting my open-sighted .458.
 
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Have shot 4 eland with 180gr TSX from a .300WM and there three with a .375 HH using a 300gr TSX.
All dies very fast.

Killed a couple with local ammo in Namibia as well from a 9.3 x 62 I think, shooting a bullet that looked like a core-lokt.

Hit an eland in the right place and they go down.
 
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What velocity were you getting?


I get 2744 fps using Reloader 15 behind a 270 Gr. TSX bullet. Fed. 215 primer. 24" barrel.

http://barnesbullets.com/files/2017/09/375HH.pdf


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I vote for the 270 TSX,


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TSX or A-Frame. If reloading don't be afraid of CEB Raptors. In my opinion they are the most devastating of all bullets on large animals.


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My take is they all will work. None are better than the others.
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Hard to beat X bullets in any caliber where the meplat and the hole in it are sufficiently large to reliably initiate expansion. The .375 definitely falls into that category.


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These 270 TSX were all recovered from Eland. 2650 fps from a 21" Rem 700 with ranges varying from 100 to 275yrds

 
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I get 2744 fps using Reloader 15 behind a 270 Gr. TSX bullet. Fed. 215 primer. 24" barrel.


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Is that load using Barnes maximum RL15 charge of 75.50 gns ?


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I would recommend giving these a go! Great bullet and guys to deal with.

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Thanks team, I appreciate the feed back.
Those AB shoot ok out of my rifle, but i am keen to give the TSX a go. Will buy a packet and test accuracy.
I do like the idea of a 300GN with a bit more SD but will need to consider what speed I could drive them at vs the 270GN.
Thanks again everyone.

Regards
Stu
 
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I took my eland with a Sierra Game King 250 gr in the .375. Worked perfectly. If I were going after another one, I would use the 235 gr Barnes TSX or the Cutting Edge 230 gr Safari Raptor.


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Cheers Hogbreath
 
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Originally posted by stuey:
Thanks team, I appreciate the feed back.
Those AB shoot ok out of my rifle, but i am keen to give the TSX a go. Will buy a packet and test accuracy.
I do like the idea of a 300GN with a bit more SD but will need to consider what speed I could drive them at vs the 270GN.
Thanks again everyone.

Regards
Stu


I wouldn't be to worried about the speed, run the 300 TSX to about 2500 fps and call it good.
 
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Labman,Is that load using Barnes maximum RL15 charge of 75.50 gns ?


Yes


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I've shot the 300 grain TSX from my 375 H&H for over 10 years, it's worked on everything from steenbok to buffalo and from bushbuck ay 50 yards to zebra at 300 yards.

Saying that, I'm switching to the 250 grain TTSX for the flatter trajectory.


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hands down the TSX for me..

I took 270gr nosler partitions on my last hunt for PG with my .375.. they did just fine..

but what I've seen in TSX performance frankly isnt even comparable.. its at a whole different (higher) level..
 
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My answer is the 270 TSX.

I took mine with a 200gr X Bullet out of an 8x68S and he went 15-20 yards


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300 grain TSX have shot Eland out to 350 yards with those, no problem, factory loads. I used to use the Federal Premium stuff, back when it was TSX, now have switched to the Barnes Vortex, its as good, and dope is very close to the Federal loads.

I never cottoned to the 270 grain for the 375, started with the 300, never saw the need to drop down to the 270or 225, nor up to the 350 as those became available later. Just pretty much stuck with one bullet, one load, in my one rifle for the world 375. Not that I don't take other rifles, that 375 with TSX just can anything anytime anywhere.

Side note - have shot some tiny stuff (steenbok, duiker etc )with it too - make careful shot selection, don't hit bone, and its pretty effective without tearing the hide up too much.


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stuey,

I'm in agreement with the others on the 270 TSX. I got 2725 fps in my 375 H&H with RL 15. I'd be happy with that load for everything your apt to encounter other than elephant and tiny antelope. With a few solid for those you are completely covered for everything.

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Use any premium 300 gn and practice. Your shooting is more important than the bullet!


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I vote for the 300 GR TSX.

My gun really likes 260 GR Nosler Partitions pushed by 72 GR of RL-15 at 2725 fps. Will shoot touching groups with this load.

I still use the 300 GR TSX for the "what if" factor. 300 GR TSX, 68 GR RL-15, at 2470 fps. Shoots sub MOA in my gun and is still flat enough to not worry on anything under the 200-250 yard range.

Most of our shots are under 75-100 yards. If I were stretching things out to the 200-300 yard range, I'd flip to the flatter shooting 260s.

Any quality bullet at a reasonable speed will get the job done. But why would anyone not try to get the best performance available to them? I know a TSX will perform.

My brother swears by Northforks and it's hard to ague with him after seeing them in action. Stack some cupped nose solids under a TSX and your ready for anything that may come at you.
 
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Thanks for all your comments and suggestions.
DLJ, my rifle shoots the 260GN AB well but i wanted a bit more bullet weight.
You and others have suggested sticking to the 300GN formula which is what the H&H was always. Just taking note of your comment on the 300GN at 200-300yds makes me think the 270GN TSX might be the best of both worlds, as you know Namibia can have some longer shots, and given it is not a bushveld Zim hunt in a DG area i won't need the solids.

Thanks team
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BARNES 270GR LRX BT

Here is where the "ifs" start. I'm doing the "if"ing with RL-15 because that what I've gotten my best results with. If your gun can accurately shoot the TSXs at max fps, near 2,700 fps for the 270 and 2,600 fps for the 300, its a wash. Go with the 300gr. Everyone loves a big dog.

Enter the BARNES LRX BT. A boat tail tipped TSX. It has a B.C. of 0.449 compared to 0.326 & 0.357 of the TSXs.

If you are sighting for a 200 yard zero.

---------- -100- 200- 300- 400
270TSX---- +2.2 0.0 -9.5 -28.3
300TSX---- +2.4 0.0 -10.0 -30.1
270LRX BT +2.0 0.0 -8.6 -24.7

The TSXs will both be near 1,700 fps at 400 yds, and the LRX BT will be around 1,950.

None of this at range info makes any difference if your gun or you can't shoot SUB MOA. Check into VIPERFLEX quad sticks and practice with them. Hands down the best long range option out there.

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Hi DLJ
Thanks for the detailed follow up. I will give some considered thought and start to build some loads.
Yep, I used some of those quad sticks last trip to Namibia. I shoot them a whole lot better than the other types.
Cheers
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I'm going to load that new LRX 270 grain and would recommend TSX as first choice, but A-frame would be great as well.
 
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I used the 270 grain a Frame in a 375 on my first trip. Worked like it was supposed to. I have used the Barnes TSX on several occasions with the various 9.3's. Also worked.


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The Cutting edge bullet safari raptors are deadly. I took the 275 grain thin skinned raptors at 2650fps with 72 gr RL 15 and fed 215 primers for a plains game trip. They have minimal recoil so my 14 year old could shoot them. They shoot sub MOA groups and destroy the vitals.You have many good choices with that caliber. Pick what your gun likes and it will do the job if you place it where you want to


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Thanks for all your comments and suggestions.
DLJ, my rifle shoots the 260GN AB well but i wanted a bit more bullet weight.
You and others have suggested sticking to the 300GN formula which is what the H&H was always. Just taking note of your comment on the 300GN at 200-300yds makes me think the 270GN TSX might be the best of both worlds, as you know Namibia can have some longer shots, and given it is not a bushveld Zim hunt in a DG area i won't need the solids.

Thanks team
Regards Stu


Stick with the proven 300 grain formula - elevation come up at ranges over 200 is just math and practice with wind. Don't switch bullets, use one that works for everything and learn how to use it.

Get a scope with good turrets, like the Z06 Swarovski stuff, and set it for 100, 200, 300, 400, and you own all that with the 300 375 H&H loads. 2450-2500 fps out of that WILL make TSX expand and do its job.

This is not a complicated problem here.


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You can use LEAD in Africa. Go for a good bonded partition like the Trophy Bonded or Swift A-Frame. Your choice on weights, depending on range you intend to shoot....270 for long range .....

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