Leon Duplessis

14 September 2015, 20:10

Beretta682E

Leon Duplessis

quote:
Originally posted by GeorgeS:
quote:
Originally posted by Clan_Colla:
Wishing you a Speedy Recovery my friend--

BTW---for the Admins here--

THE ANTI'S are on this already and linking to AR

https://www.facebook.com/WeWil...SilencedAboutHunters

We Will Not Be Silenced about Hunters
September 11 at 12:17pm · Edited ·
On September 9 2015 Leon duPlessis was shot through the ankle by a client.
. A picture revealed a grizzly wound. We think it is a graphic photo so have not posted it (it is on the forum however - please note we do not know if the man pictured in our FB post is HIM, it is the image that comes up from that website - if I recall correctly Leon is somewhat younger! )
Perhaps Leon will not only think about what a lucky escape he had, but about how painful HIS bullets are to animals. see here to read more (and see more ) see here: (click link) -( Thanks Richard for alerting us)
http://forums.accuratereloadin...1411043/m/2771098312

Other than moving the thread to make that URL invalid, there isn't much we can do.

George

Spoke to Leon and sent him the link.

He is bored and wanted the link. He said "I need some entertainment"

Mike

14 September 2015, 21:00

Slider

You should be able to edit there post.

15 September 2015, 07:14

rnovi

quote:
Originally posted by Biebs:
It looks, at least, like it missed both the bone and the Achilles tendon. Wow, that is good fortune indeed.

If that bullet had hit either...wow. Talk about being watched over.

Here's wishing you a FULL recovery!

15 September 2015, 09:28

Michael Robinson

There are worse places to be shot, and let's thank God that none of them was involved here.

Best wishes for a full and complete recovery.

Please be safe out there, one and all.

16 September 2015, 03:33

N E 450 No2

Leon, I wish you a speedy and 100% recovery.

16 September 2015, 04:52

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by GOB:
Another case of someone who was and is totally unsafe with a gun. This poor guy is going to suffer for the remainder of his life because some greedy character did not practice gun safety.

This to be called another accident. The gun pointed itself at this gentleman and went off all by itself.

Oh, the shooter feels sorry, absolutely; the all do. Look at our last hero. Mr. TV Star. That victim is still suffering. Was the chance at this animal worth the pain and damage inflicted. The shooter should be arrested and tried.

Oh, as always there shall be great proclamations of sorrow, remorse and the promise to always help. See how long that lasts.

Never point a bloody gun at anything you do not wish to shoot. Accidents of this nature do not happen. It is the greedy moron who pulls the trigger. An accident is when the sear breaks and the bullet flys off into space and no one is hurt

The shooter is nothing but a greedy jerk with no conception of gun safety. That is unless the victim ran in front of the gun as our Elmer Fudd was pulling the trigger.

There is no excuse for improper gun safety! It is not an accident, it is an unintentional criminal act. One is guilty of a crime through an act of omission or commission.

Let the Courts settle this but it still will NEVER EVER make this poor gentleman whole again or recoup his losses.

It makes no difference if the shooter is Dr. Spock or one of the Bros from Ferguson, it was a dangerous stupid greedy unsafe act!

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
You use the term "greedy" three times to describe this accident. Please explain exactly how any concept akin to greed relates to this situation? Also, do you believe that every car accident is an unintentional criminal act that should be resolved in the courts?

And you were worried about Trax!

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16 September 2015, 05:28

MJines

Glenn is no Trax for sure. I think he obviously feels passionately about this and got wound up. That said, put me in the camp that believes with guns, cars, airplanes, ladders, hammers, electricity, etc. sometimes accidents happen. Does that excuse them, no, does it mean we should redouble our efforts to be careful, sure. But to suggest that the acts are greedy (whatever that means) or criminal is just not fair in my view.

16 September 2015, 05:42

Beretta682E

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
Glenn is no Trax for sure. I think he obviously feels passionately about this and got wound up. That said, put me in the camp that believes with guns, cars, airplanes, ladders, hammers, electricity, etc. sometimes accidents happen. Does that excuse them, no, does it mean we should redouble our efforts to be careful, sure. But to suggest that the acts are greedy (whatever that means) or criminal is just not fair in my view.

+1

If we don't hunt and don't own guns and don't go to africa there is a very low chance of ad shooting.

The question for client hunters is what do we do to greatly minimize risk of ad shooting.

Start with a culture of gun safety that is sorely lacking in African hunting and in us gun ownership.

Choose equipment correctly - that new cocker gun like the blaser, k - gun double, mauser 03 have some additional merit

Practice big bore shooting at school in the us

Allow ph on some follow up to dispatch the wounded animal

Talk gun safety with PH - everyone goes first day in camp and sights in rifle. Why not talk gun and hunting safety for 30 min.

Mike

16 September 2015, 05:47

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
Glenn is no Trax for sure. I think he obviously feels passionately about this and got wound up. That said, put me in the camp that believes with guns, cars, airplanes, ladders, hammers, electricity, etc. sometimes accidents happen. Does that excuse them, no, does it mean we should redouble our efforts to be careful, sure. But to suggest that the acts are greedy (whatever that means) or criminal is just not fair in my view.

You are quite correct Mike...even Trax doesn't go so far as to want a criminal indictment over an accident.

16 September 2015, 08:09

AilsaWheels

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
That said, put me in the camp that believes with guns, cars, airplanes, ladders, hammers, electricity, etc. sometimes accidents happen. Does that excuse them, no, does it mean we should redouble our efforts to be careful, sure. But to suggest that the acts are greedy (whatever that means) or criminal is just not fair in my view.

17 September 2015, 20:54

Beretta682E

Update from Leon and Judy DuPlessis

Firstly, they want to thank everyone on AR for their well wishes and get well messages - "we really appreciate all the support from the AR community."

Secondly, Leon will still be in the hospital for another 3 weeks to have skin grafts done and start physio and the road to getting the foot working again.

From me

The long road to getting. Still a miracle that no bone was damaged.

All wrapped up for now

I look forward to drinking with him in Dallas and maybe Vegas at the shows. And hunting with Leon next year. Maybe I will be his driver and lackey around the Save if I get some slow time next year. Won't be his appie - he makes them work too damn hard.

Mike

17 September 2015, 21:14

Venture South

Get well soon.
That is a serious wound.

20 September 2015, 07:55

RichardAustin

Certainly wishing him a full and speedy recovery. While this could have been much worse, I hope that Dr/client will do his best to help this man financially, he's wrecked his income for the foreseeable future. Be good to see him take some responsibility for his actions.

07 October 2015, 18:23

matt u

Any update on how Leon is doing?

07 October 2015, 18:35

poprivit

It's them dan "Grizzly' wounds that cause all the damage. God only knows how grizzly bears got to Africa.

08 October 2015, 07:37

Demonical

At the pic... holy shit!!

I hope the bloke recovers fully, and gets back into the hunting fields.

08 October 2015, 08:19

pagosawingnut

Any fresh news on Leon?

08 October 2015, 08:50

juanpozzi

Hope a speedy recovery ,im an exmilitary surgeon and i m sure this will heal pretty fast .
I alwas say to my my son that hes a guide too ,that the danger in the wild arent buffalos pumas snakes jaguars ,the greatest danger are guns ,specially in some clients that dont have experience .

08 October 2015, 09:19

Beretta682E

quote:
Originally posted by pagosawingnut:
Any fresh news on Leon?

He is waiting on skin grafts - otherwise doing okay. I think he is tired of being stuck in bed.

Had some friends from ZIm stop by and his kids came from Zim last weekend so he was pretty happy as were the kids.

Mike

08 October 2015, 09:26

gunslinger55

Bloody poor gunhandling on the clients account. He was very lucky indeed. Hope for a speedy recovery

08 October 2015, 16:35

GOB

Sir,

You will probably now receive hate mail for having the tamarity to say unsafe gun handling.

It was some mystical force that guided that gun to shoot this poor gentleman who still remains in Hospital suffering as he will suffer for the remainder of his life. While the trigger mans proclaims it was an accident, never anything unsafe there. No just an accident!

You never point a gun at anything you do not want to shoot! Then there is no accident.

Interesting that a lot of wonderful folks are upset with anyone who mentions stupid unsafe gun handling. Yet I just wonder how many victims of these "accidents" they have seen or investigated? I can tell you one thing there is not one shooter who does not wail accident shedding long tears and walk away while lives are destroyed, folks in the urn but what the hell it was an accident. Never a stupid unsafe act of pointing a gun in an unsafe direction.

Never met a shooter in those circumstances that proclaimed they got up in the morning and decided to shoot someone. It is always the result of some stupid unsafe act of pointing a gun at the victim.

Only one time have we observed a sear break and that was on a very very expenstpive toy. The operator of the gun although shooting had the gun pointing in a safe direction which resulted in switching guns and making a new sear overnight.

08 October 2015, 17:18

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by GOB:
Sir,

You will probably now receive hate mail for having the tamarity to say unsafe gun handling.

It was some mystical force that guided that gun to shoot this poor gentleman who still remains in Hospital suffering as he will suffer for the remainder of his life. While the trigger mans proclaims it was an accident, never anything unsafe there. No just an accident!

You never point a gun at anything you do not want to shoot! Then there is no accident.

Interesting that a lot of wonderful folks are upset with anyone who mentions stupid unsafe gun handling. Yet I just wonder how many victims of these "accidents" they have seen or investigated? I can tell you one thing there is not one shooter who does not wail accident shedding long tears and walk away while lives are destroyed, folks in the urn but what the hell it was an accident. Never a stupid unsafe act of pointing a gun in an unsafe direction.

Never met a shooter in those circumstances that proclaimed they got up in the morning and decided to shoot someone. It is always the result of some stupid unsafe act of pointing a gun at the victim.

Precisely why it would be wrong to use the 'criminal' justice system against them.

Only one time have we observed a sear break and that was on a very very expenstpive toy. The operator of the gun although shooting had the gun pointing in a safe direction which resulted in switching guns and making a new sear overnight.

Sir,
While I agree with most of what you say...2 wrongs don't make a right. Leave these cases to civil law and up to the victim as to whether to pursue. And if you don't think I have the experience to speak on the subject...I will post up the X-rays of the slug lodged in my 3rd cervical vertebrae.

08 October 2015, 19:20

Leopardtrack

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by GOB:
Sir,

You will probably now receive hate mail for having the tamarity to say unsafe gun handling.

It was some mystical force that guided that gun to shoot this poor gentleman who still remains in Hospital suffering as he will suffer for the remainder of his life. While the trigger mans proclaims it was an accident, never anything unsafe there. No just an accident!

You never point a gun at anything you do not want to shoot! Then there is no accident.

Interesting that a lot of wonderful folks are upset with anyone who mentions stupid unsafe gun handling. Yet I just wonder how many victims of these "accidents" they have seen or investigated? I can tell you one thing there is not one shooter who does not wail accident shedding long tears and walk away while lives are destroyed, folks in the urn but what the hell it was an accident. Never a stupid unsafe act of pointing a gun in an unsafe direction.

Never met a shooter in those circumstances that proclaimed they got up in the morning and decided to shoot someone. It is always the result of some stupid unsafe act of pointing a gun at the victim.

Precisely why it would be wrong to use the 'criminal' justice system against them.

Only one time have we observed a sear break and that was on a very very expenstpive toy. The operator of the gun although shooting had the gun pointing in a safe direction which resulted in switching guns and making a new sear overnight.

Sir,
While I agree with most of what you say...2 wrongs don't make a right. Leave these cases to civil law and up to the victim as to whether to pursue. And if you don't think I have the experience to speak on the subject...I will post up the X-rays of the slug lodged in my 3rd cervical vertebrae.

Wow that's something Lane! You're a lucky man.

I would love to hear the story and see that X-Ray

08 October 2015, 21:39

Beretta682E

Just spoke to Leon

He had the skin graft done yesterday. Looks like all major surgery is done.

He has another week of bedrest and them physcio starts and more importantly try and see what nerve damage is there - hopefully none.

He is a bit of pain but they gace given him IV painkillers so its helping.

Mike

08 October 2015, 22:38

GOB

Sorry,

We have been away and do not know if the Gentleman (hopefully by the shooter) is being looked after properly. There is no free lunch for any white person hurt there. Is there a way to donate funds to help with his care?

08 October 2015, 22:51

GunsCore

quote:
Originally posted by GOB:
Sorry,

We have been away and do not know if the Gentleman (hopefully by the shooter) is being looked after properly. There is no free lunch for any white person hurt there. Is there a way to donate funds to help with his care?

Dallas Safari Club has their "Frontlines Foundation" that you can make a tax deductible contribution to. You might want to designate it go to help Leon.

09 October 2015, 03:09

Richard T. Cheatham

The DSC Frontline Foundation has been in contact with Judy and has made a grant to help the family during these very difficult times. The Foundation will maintain contact with Judy to see if additional support is needed, but we welcome any and all support and appreciate the generous contributions from all of our AR friends.

09 October 2015, 03:27

Beretta682E

quote:
Originally posted by Richard T. Cheatham:
The DSC Frontline Foundation has been in contact with Judy and has made a grant to help the family during these very difficult times. The Foundation will maintain contact with Judy to see if additional support is needed, but we welcome any and all support and appreciate the generous contributions from all of our AR friends.

Awesome - I just became a life member of DSC.

Thank you,

Mike

09 October 2015, 19:24

Richard T. Cheatham

That's great Mike. I hope I have the chance to thank you in person in January.

11 October 2015, 04:33

Blair 338RUM

quote:
Originally posted by Richard T. Cheatham:
The DSC Frontline Foundation has been in contact with Judy and has made a grant to help the family during these very difficult times. The Foundation will maintain contact with Judy to see if additional support is needed, but we welcome any and all support and appreciate the generous contributions from all of our AR friends.

11 October 2015, 04:36

drongo

quote:
Originally posted by Beretta682E:
quote:
Originally posted by Richard T. Cheatham:
The DSC Frontline Foundation has been in contact with Judy and has made a grant to help the family during these very difficult times. The Foundation will maintain contact with Judy to see if additional support is needed, but we welcome any and all support and appreciate the generous contributions from all of our AR friends.

Awesome - I just became a life member of DSC.

Thank you,

Mike

Great! I sent the DSCFF a check after the Gibbo catastrophe and became a life member last month. A great cause and organization!

11 October 2015, 07:36

Steve416

quote:
Originally posted by JTEX:
Damn! I coulda' gone all day without seeing that picture!

Tough SOB for sure!

Again, wishes for a speedy and thorough recovery.

.

+1 . Ouch.

24 October 2015, 01:35

Beretta682E

An update

Leon is back in Jo-Burg. He had gone back to Zim for a few day.

His foot and skin graft had a infection. They did surgery again and in surgery his BP collapsed. He was in ICU for a day and is back in regular care.

Back to having the wound open with a vacuum pump.

Tough guy will make it thru but the road to getting back from a 375 H&H barnes tsx thru ones ankle is not easy.

I will not post more gruesome pictures of the open wound. But we all should always have gun safety in our minds as hunting season starts in the US.

Mike

24 October 2015, 02:06

GOB

Thank you sir for keeping us posted. No one deserves this to happen to them.

Oh, it was just an accident,tell that to the victim and the Family.

How is the trigger man holding up? Was he there to support this poor lad.

Please convey to your friend we understand his pain ad please please retain a good Lawyer and to bring action here in the USA. there are a couple great Attorneys on this site who may guide your friend. This is not going to get better in the near future. We all wish we could push a button and the pain and hurt, the suffering, lost wages, the entire list would go away. Sadly it is very difficult to make the pain go away and put food on the table by saying SORRY, IT WAS AN ACCIDET.

unsafe gun handling is not an accident! Perhaps not criminal in your baliewick but in many it is indeed criminal.

Sorry to offend anyone but that is my opinion.

24 October 2015, 02:15

subsailor74

quote:
Originally posted by Beretta682E:
An update

Leon is back in Jo-Burg. He had gone back to Zim for a few day.

His foot and skin graft had a infection. They did surgery again and in surgery his BP collapsed. He was in ICU for a day and is back in regular care.

Back to having the wound open with a vacuum pump.

Tough guy will make it thru but the road to getting back from a 375 H&H barnes tsx thru ones ankle is not easy.

I will not post more gruesome pictures of the open wound. But we all should always have gun safety in our minds as hunting season starts in the US.

Mike

Thanks for the update Mike - if you have a way where I can get in touch with Leon directly, please PM or E-Mail me with the information.

24 October 2015, 02:24

Beretta682E

Admiral best way is whatsapp - I am in near continuous contact with him thru it.

Also Facebook. I will ask him the best email to get in touch with him via.

Mike

24 October 2015, 07:36

Saeed

Glad to hear he is doing well in his recovery.

When one goes on a safari, one pretty much expects anything can happen.

But, being shot has never crossed our minds.

07 November 2015, 07:04

Beretta682E

From Leon

"Well its finally official.. I will be discharged from hospital today, its been a long haul almost 9 weeks in here. I am so happy to be going home We will do physio back home. Judy Lee DuPlessis and i really want to thank all of you so much for all your support encouragement and messages it has been such a big help in Getting through this.!!!! Thanks to all Dr's and staff at milpark hospital Johannesburg"

Mike