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21 April 2004, 18:23
M16
R-93 Blaser.
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I don't own a blaser.

I have never shot a blaser.

I do not sell a product that competes with blasers



So what are you saying. That you are a troll. Finally we agree on something. Why are you weighing in on something you know absolutely nothing about?

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But I have to wonder why there are so many reports of blasers blowing up. Even Remington does not have this much bad press surrounding it.




Ever hear of the Remington trigger lawsuits. I think those resulted in several deaths. But I can't blame Remington when somebody points a gun at another human being and starts playing with the safety and/or trigger. Ever hear of the Ruger revolver lawsuits. But I can't blame Ruger when somebody loads six rounds in an old model and drops it. Sorry, no stupid pictures available.
21 April 2004, 19:28
500grains
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So what are you saying. That you are a troll. Finally we agree on something. Why are you weighing in on something you know absolutely nothing about?



Some guys really get their panties in a twist when someone dares to question a product that they worship. Gosh, you would think I poked fun at your favorite football team.

Shouting 'urban legand' across the internet will not make the injured people go away. Why don't you post some 'scientific evidence' instead of getting yourself all wrapped around the axel?

In fact, you could email the gentleman in Norway and ask for his side of the story. If you cannot find his email in the link, let me know and I will find it for you.

Put up or shut up.

(As for Remington, I agree that they are an unsafe piece of crap. But apparently Blaser is worse, because Remingtons do not blow up.)
21 April 2004, 21:49
ErikT
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... I find it suspicious that our first hand account of the Elephant hunter with a jammed R-93 was using a 458 Lott, a cartridge that the Blaser Website doesn't list as one used in the R-93. Could he for example have stuck a lott case in a 45 Blaser Chamber? Could it have been an incorrectly rechambered barrel? I don't know for sure whether or not they have ever had a factory barrel made for the Lott, but they don't list it now and I doubt that they have.



Blaser never made barrels in .458 Lott, but two years ago they introduced a new caliber .45 Blaser so by drilling up the cartridge chamber the R93 could be transfered into a .458 Lott...

Blaser's only DG-calibers offered in the R93 are .416 Rem. and the .375 H&H.

Best regards

Erik
22 April 2004, 01:38
Erik Jensen
The Blaser R93 is actually a nice and very accurate gun, in the small and medium bore calibers. For most normal shooters it is in fact a lot faster to handle than a mauser action.

The straight pull system that the R93 use, is really very old. The first rifle with this system came in the beginning of the last century, as the Lee Naval Straight pull - and if I remember correct it was chamber for 280 cal. (because the system could not handle a full size load). The service time of the Straight Pull rifle was a short one, bacuse the system simply worked to bad under real life conditions. (From the book Military Small Arms - I can post the full story if anybody wants it).

The above mentioned problems is the same as the R93 rifle has today. The systems work very well as long as it is kept clean (and most hunters do so), and the rounds are not loaded to a too high pressure.
22 April 2004, 01:54
Ulrik Hentzer
Erik,
I do not agree that the R-93 is a nice rifle. It is ugly in my opinion. In fact I would not take one even if it was given to me.. I prefer CRF bolt actions any day - even in small and medium bore calibers.
22 April 2004, 02:20
Erik Jensen
Ulrik,

Well, I would not do so either - but I simply tried to keep this as objektive as possible, and base my comments on facts. If I were given a R93 for free in one of the smaller calibers I would be glad to have it. But for the price they cost I would take a winchester or sako instead.
22 April 2004, 02:40
JefferyDenmark
Ulrik

The XO concurs my friend has R93 in 8X68s with a kick stop in it and it is so poorly constructed and unpleasant to shoot. I would not own one either, even if I got it for free. Life is too short for strange looking poorly constructed guns with bad recoil handling.
And I am use to shooting the 375 H&H in a old pre-64 and a .500 Jeffery.

Look they even made it worse and wasted some gunsmiths time doing it.

I thought Elvis was dead



Cheers,

Andr�
22 April 2004, 02:50
M16
My My you are a sensitive little troll aren't you.

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As for Remington, I agree that they are an unsafe piece of crap



Here we go again. I'm afraid we don't agree on Remington either. No doubt their quality is headed down hill but they have made some excellent rifles in the past. You are showing your ignorance with a statement like that. Unsafe? Not for normal people who don't point guns at others. I suppose you blame automobile manufacturers for wrecks caused by drunk drivers? Got any pictures?
22 April 2004, 14:53
500grains


22 April 2004, 15:19
surestrike
Well guys I didn't know that there was this emoition floating around on this subject....

So just calm things down a bit lets all talk about the R-93 chambered in .45-70 as a DG alternative...!!!!

Just kidding boys.......

I'll be sticking with my .375 or my .458Lott both M-70's or my Searcy .470NE for serious work.

I don't use a push feed on DG, in anycase the original question didn't mention DG but rather friendly little high altitude grass munchers.

And I do sincerely thank you all for your input.