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Had a interesting conversation with my PH on bullets for a leopard. I will be using a 375 and have used Swift A Frames on Buf but he said he likes a softer bullet. Any thoughts.
 
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Had a interesting conversation with my PH on bullets for a leopard. I will be using a 375 and have used Swift A Frames on Buf but he said he likes a softer bullet. Any thoughts.


a load of coddswallop!

Use ANY bullet in the 375 on leopard, and I can assure you no leopard would know the difference.

I do not know how many leopards I have shot with Barnes X and our own Walterhog bullets, which I make myself on our CNC lathe out of copper rod.


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At the distance that you will be shooting it and it being a soft-skinned animal, the expanding type of bullet will not make much of a difference.

More importantly, emphasis is directed towards the shot placement and unless the bullet does not hit the CNS, the Leopard will not end up DRT and is very likely to run and drop in the close vicinity.
 
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Your PH is wrong. Maybe he's been reading too much Boddington??

It worked last week and has worked on at least five other leopards for me. The A-Frame will work on any leopard and any and all bait animals you need to whack.

The 270 grain A-Frame is my favorite 375 bullet for leopard out of an H&H. Bigger cases get the 300 grain version, although, I'll be damned if I can tell much of any difference on game.
 
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A leopard is a small animal and it is kinda soft. If you follow that logic i guess, it could make sense to advicate for a softer bullet.

Personally I would say a 375 is a bit overkill, but that won't matter much actually, nor will the bullet make a big difference.

Shotplacement is what matters on a leopard and you can use a 30-06 or a 375HH, if you don't hit the correct spot it might run and that could mean you loose him even if the hit was fatal.

Just my 2cents....


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Gotta say, everyone here is right. But, if it’d make your PH happy, you couldn’t go wrong with a Nosler Partition, Accubond or Sierra Game King.

Hit it right and any quality expanding bullet will be fine.
 
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At the distance that you will be shooting it and it being a soft-skinned animal, the expanding type of bullet will not make much of a difference.

More importantly, emphasis is directed towards the shot placement and unless the bullet does not hit the CNS, the Leopard will not end up DRT and is very likely to run and drop in the close vicinity.

+1

Been on 3 hunts with the 375 and all 3 leopards got it in the lung area and ran away 20 meters or so.
 
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Shot 2 leopards to date. First one with a 375H&H and 300gr Barnes TSX. Dead under the tree. Second one with a 300H&H and 180gr Barnes TSX. Dead under the tree.

Your A Frame will work fine if you put it in the right spot.
 
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I have shot a pile of them. All but one with the Swift A-Frame. Works fine .

Taking a bunch of different bullets is a recipe for disaster.
 
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I’ve always shot cats with a buffalo capable bullet. No desire to monkey with rezeroing a specific load for the cat then putting it back.

Now, if it’s a leopard only hunt with nothing big being shot for bait, a smaller cartridge will work fine, as leopard are small and relatively soft.

Shot placement is everything with cats.
 
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A leopard is a small animal and it is kinda soft. If you follow that logic i guess, it could make sense to advicate for a softer bullet.

Personally I would say a 375 is a bit overkill, but that won't matter much actually, nor will the bullet make a big difference.

Shotplacement is what matters on a leopard and you can use a 30-06 or a 375HH, if you don't hit the correct spot it might run and that could mean you loose him even if the hit was fatal.

Just my 2cents....


tu2 Right on. If anything, a 375 is not necessary to kill a leopard. Use the rifle you shoot best and put a scope with lighted reticle on it. The Trijicon is perfect.


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I've used the 375 H&H with 300 grain Nosler partitions on two leopards. Both died convincingly, including the supercat in my profile pic.
 
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I have no dog in this fight as I have never even seen a leopard in the wild but I have read of many PH's preferring a softer bullet. It isn't because an A-Frame won't work but because the softer bullet will fragment and cause more damage. It might be because they have seen too many clients screw up a shot and then have to go in on a pissed off kitty. More margin for error with a fragmenting bullet.
 
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Most hunters take two guns on a safari, I usually took a 30 06 and a big bore..Use the 06 with 180 gr Nosler partition on Leopard and PG. Leopards seem to die quicker shot with deer rifle calibers from the 7x57 up but tend to make big exit holes..A 375 kills just fine, and generally wont tear up that beautiful skin.


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Randy,

Stick with your A-Frames. They will work fine for leopard, lion, buffalo and hippo. You don't need anything else.

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As long as the bullets will open up, or maybe even if they won't, as long as you are firing them in .375 caliber, you will be okay.

A Swift should open up.

I like Hirtenberger 272 grain ABC bullets for use in my .375s. But the ABC bullets are no longer made.

I have my stash, however, and will use them until I or they are exhausted.


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Splitting hairs over a .375 bullet for Leopard is senseless. If it were Lion, I could see having the conversation about most effective bullet, but Leopard is not a big animal and way less likely to charge if hit properly.
 
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Splitting hairs over a .375 bullet for Leopard is senseless. If it were Lion, I could see having the conversation about most effective bullet, but Leopard is not a big animal and way less likely to charge if hit properly.


Actually, this sort of argument is almost irrelevant today, with all the great bullets available today.

In the old days, one had either softs, or solids.

That is it.

And the softs were not the same.

Today, one has a choice of an incredible amount of bullets.

Personally, I would avoid the normal soft bullets for any type of hunting.

Apart from that, any premium bullet, whether partition, solid shank or all copper, they all work.

My own preference is all copper.

And I have shot everything with these


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Splitting hairs over a .375 bullet for Leopard is senseless. If it were Lion, I could see having the conversation about most effective bullet, but Leopard is not a big animal and way less likely to charge if hit properly.




Actually, this sort of argument is almost irrelevant today, with all the great bullets available today.

In the old days, one had either softs, or solids.

That is it.

And the softs were not the same.

Today, one has a choice of an incredible amount of bullets.

Personally, I would avoid the normal soft bullets for any type of hunting.

Apart from that, any premium bullet, whether partition, solid shank or all copper, they all work.

My own preference is all copper.

And I have shot everything with these


I acquired about 10 boxes of 308 that were all copper. These were for a camp gun when I have guests. I have been astounded at how well they performed .
 
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I make these bullets on the machine you saw.

I make them in every caliber, and they shoot extremely well.

Had a friend shooting a Sako Long Range rifle in 338 Lapua.

He said he was not too happy with the factory ammo he shot.

Gave him a box of different weights, and loading data.

He called and said all bullet weights shot very very well.

He is happy.

Roy likes to shoot large calibers.

And kept saying how amazed he is at the accuracy he gets from these.

For hunt, any hunting except elephant, the copper bullets have no rival.


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Randy,

Stick with your A-Frames. They will work fine for leopard, lion, buffalo and hippo. You don't need anything else.

Mark
. I will, I’ve shot a buffalo, 2 Orxy, Kudu, and Wildebeest over here on this Safari with that combination and it is really working good. Shot my elephant with the Woodleigh Hydro. The Trijicon is extremely nice and is very easy to get on target. I like that set up and will use it next year. Woodleigh Hydro for the hippo.
 
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