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With some research here on AR, I got a good starting load for 200gr AB's using RL25. Two of the charge weights proved to be quite accurate. With the AB's being touted as a better bullet than the Partition, would this be a good round for Eland? | ||
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A few years back I shot an Eland with my .300 WSM using a 180 grain Winchester Supreme Fail Safe, at close to 200 yards, and it fell on the spot.  I would think that the Accubond would work just fine. | |||
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I believe the .300 is a bit light on Eland. The key would be shot presentation and the ability to hit the POA. I've killed Eland with the .300wm and the .416Rem. Guess which works better? And something to remember about Eland; wound them with a poorly placed shot and you'll never catch them. Once they start the trot, no man can overtake them on foot. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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SHOT placement. A 308 and 30-06 with 150 and 180gr bullets will drop a big Eland Bull right out to 200yds no problem. I use a 300Win Mag with 180gr Norma Oryx or SuperX all in 180gr for plains game back up and achored a Large Eland bull right out at 400 somthing. 300win mag is an awesome calibre  I love mine the WSM is also not to bad but not to much experience with it. The trick is to use the heavier bullets for better penetration,I find.Dave Davenport Outfitters license HC22/2012EC Pro Hunters license PH74/2012EC www.leopardsvalley.co.za dave@leopardsvalley.co.za +27 42 24 61388 HUNT AFRICA WHILE YOU STILL CAN Follow us on FACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/#!/leopardsvalley.safaris | |||
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+1 Dave Davenport Outfitters license HC22/2012EC Pro Hunters license PH74/2012EC www.leopardsvalley.co.za dave@leopardsvalley.co.za +27 42 24 61388 HUNT AFRICA WHILE YOU STILL CAN Follow us on FACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/#!/leopardsvalley.safaris | |||
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Agreed, last year I had to follow a clients eland, shot with a .308, for many kilometers. There was not a single drop of blood, but the tracker was able to follow the tracks and eventually we found it stone dead the next day. | |||
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Please let me add. A 308 is not the ideal calibre for sure NO arguments. But the point is it can be done with proper placement, low behind the shoulder. Ive lost a steenbuck shot with a 375 through the stomach. Ive had a 14yr old girl Take a Massive bodied bull with a 243 110gr Barnes at 80yds low behind the shoulder - Definately not ideal!! but she could SHOOT and I didnt want her to get gun shy with a bigger calibre. Is a 300wsm OK to hunt Eland with a 200gr Bullet YES. Many guys come to shoot plains game and they want an Eland. Instead of lugging 2 rifles along 1 specially for the Eland they can bring and comfortably use a smaller all round calibre. My Opinion only and all above Opinions all have merit. In Good Hunting  Dave Davenport Outfitters license HC22/2012EC Pro Hunters license PH74/2012EC www.leopardsvalley.co.za dave@leopardsvalley.co.za +27 42 24 61388 HUNT AFRICA WHILE YOU STILL CAN Follow us on FACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/#!/leopardsvalley.safaris | |||
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I've killed 2 eland, 1 with a 300wm loaded with 200 gr partitions at 2900 fps. Had the shakes & gut shot him the 1st shot, luckily he just hunched up and took a couple of steps forward, 2nd shot was right on the shoulder, he just laid down & died. Recovered both bullets on the opposite side close to exiting. Next yr. took my 375H&H, 300gr, TSX, shot him in the shoulder quartering towards me, it almost knock him down, he gained his footing & made it about 30 yds & went down. Yes, you can kill an eland with a 300 with the proper ammo, but something bigger is recommended, maybe a 338? LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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I've shot three Eland. First one was with a .338 Win shooting my handloads with 225 Gr. Nosler Partitions. First shot at 150 yds was in the lungs. The bull ran about 100 yds then stopped broadside. The next shot hit him at the base of the neck. The PH said he was ready to go down, but I put another one in his shoulder just to be sure. Second was with a 375 H&H shooting 300 Gr. Northforks. First shot at 200 yds was right on the shoulder. The bull just took off like nothing happened. We tracked him for about 100 yds. then found him standing under a tree looking pretty sick. A second Northfork put him down. Number 3 was last year. It was a frontal shot at the bull while he was looking right at me. I shot him in the center of his chest with the .338 win and the same Nosler Partitions as #1 and he dropped at the shot. Range was approx. 150 yds. He was laying on the ground with his head up however, so a finishing shot was necessary. All in all one tough critter. If I was going to hunt them with a .300 winnie, it would be with 180 Gr. TSX bullets. Penetration is very important with an animal of that size. Tom Z NRA Life Member | |||
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Bigger the hole the better. Better the shot placement the more effective the big hole. | |||
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I think you will be fine with the .300 WinMag shooting the 200 grain Accubond. Again, it's always about shot placement... African animals are tough and eland are big but they are not bullet proof. I have shot eland with .300's, .338's and the .375 and they all worked provided I did my part. I agree the "bigger is better" theory up to a point but it really is about shot placement first! Good hunting! On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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This combo will surely work, there are few things a 300 Win with a good bullet can't do. That said, after killing my one and only eland, they can soak up the lead (even when properly placed), and although they are not bullet proof, in my mind Eland=375H&H. Phil Massaro President, Massaro Ballistic Laboratories, LLC NRA Life Member B&C Member www.mblammo.com Hunt Reports- Zambia 2011 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1481089261 "Two kinds of people in this world, those of us with loaded guns, and those of us who dig. You dig." | |||
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7MMNut, I can't argue that a 300 mag with 200 ACB will not kill an eland handily with a broadside or nearly broadside presentation. Where the 300 WM might be found lacking is if the shot is a raking shot or quartering to where you need lots of penetration or need to break heavy leg bones and a bigger bullet just does that better. I've personally used a 338 or 375 on 5 eland and I recommend these calibers to my clients. If there is no way you could use a larger caliber I think I would try a 200 TSX. It will give you amazing penetration. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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I shot mine this year with an 8x68X using a 200 grain X BUllet at just under 3000 fps and had no problems. With a 200 grainer ina 300WM you should have a higher sectional density and thus slightly better penetration. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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One shot, 30/.06 with 180 gr partition, in behind the ribs, though the lungs and heart, breaking the far shoulder. Didn't run more than 50 yards. Chuck | |||
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My second Eland bull was a big Livingstone's Eland that was shot with the .375 H&H. Perfect shot at approximately 80 yards with a 300 grain Trophy Bonded Bearclaw bullet and he ran another 100 yards before going down. Go figure that one, especially in conjunction with the huge Cape Eland Bull that I shot with the .300 WSM and a Winchester Fail Safe Bullet that dropped on the spot. The first one was shot in South Africa, and the second one in Zimbabwe. | |||
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After several hours of tracking and stalk the only shot I had at my eland was straight on at 40 yards. I couldn't see anything but the cannon bones. The 300 gr TSX 375 entered just slightly off center on the chest and stopped in the full paunch. For that shot, the 375 was just adequate. | |||
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I have an experience of one Eland, shot with a 300 win mag with a 168 gr TSX at about 100 yards facing me. It was trotting up a hill directly at me and at first I was holding on the knuckle of the left shoulder and at the last second I thought my gun is a peashooter and went centre mass on the chest. The Bull was in a small herd with another bull and when they emerged from the bush broadside, I wasn't sure which one I had shot so I didn't shoot again. Big mistake, it never slowed the Bull down at all. The farm was about 10,000 acres and the PH never did find a carcass, the tracker followed it for quite a while and eventually lost the trail. $1600 dollars later I wish I had had more firepower. Given a 168 gr TSX would penetrate at least as far and a 200 gr Accubond I would say broadside only. If I was taking a 300 wm again I would load 200 gr TSX, in reality if I go again for Eland I will take a 375 with 270 gr TSX's. Biggest mammal I've ever seen in the wild, I've shot big moose before and this bull was at least 50% larger in the body. | |||
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My P.H. Joof Lamprecht of Hunters Namibia recommends loading a 300wm with 220gr partitions at 2700fps on pretty much all plainsgame. Eland are so large that the shock value of faster bullets is lost on them as their body mass seems to just absorb it. You need a heavy bullet to get the penetration. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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Three Eland to date. One taken in Mozambique with my .375 H & H, using 300 gr Nosler Part. The other two were taken with my #65 pound compound. Both shot at less than 25 yards and neither made it past the 50 yard mark after being hit. Eland are big, but don't think they are all that hard to kill, as witnessed by my two bow kills. I would not hesitate to hunt Eland with my 300 H & H using 200/220 grain TSX or Noslers. Good luck and good hunting. Larry Sellers SCI Life Member | |||
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Thanks for all the replies gents, your input is appreciated. I should have mentioned in the original post that the .300WM would be part of a two gun battery on my next PG hunt. The second being a .375H&H. The latter being my first choice for Eland also. But as Murphy would dictate, if I walk away from the bakkie carrying the .300 because for whatever reason that was the better choice, that is surely when the trophy Eland will show. Or the .375 goes down for some reason. I just got this M70 a couple of months ago from an AR member here and still in load dev't mode for it. The 200gr AB load was the first one so far that I would hunt with. TSX / A-Frame / North Forks are still on the list to work with. | |||
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It's part of the fun of safari working out the details. Good Luck LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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I have shot 2 LDE with a 404 and it did the job perfect. I have shot a few other eland With 300 weatherby,7 mag,375h&h all no problem but the most stunning was a big Livingston with a 280 ackley improved with a nosler ballistic tip coming towards me And it just hammered him and it shocked me but it did the right damage and He was down within 10 feet of my shot. I guess you never know! | |||
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Calibre for eland depend of area and country. Shooting and hunting Cape eland and LDE ore Paterson on mountains are big differense. I have shot Paterson and LDE by 375 and can't vote for 30 calibre for both those elands. | |||
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While not ideal I have killed an Eland with a borrowed 3006 at over 200 yards. A 300 Winchester or Remington ultra mag with 200 grain bullets should be plenty of medicine. | |||
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