Hello Can anyone share with me the cost of a 10, 14 and 21 day Hunting license in Tanzania?

Thank you,

Jim

I found this that lists the license and government fees. I am not sure if this is accurate or not, but seems to list the actual government fees associated with hunting in Tanzania.

http://www.zancos.co.tz/tanzania-hunting/1323

Thank you for sharing.

Jim

The license fees and permits are such a minor part of the cost, I've never paid any attention to it. Main issue is trophy fees and they have a history of changing them retroactively. Sometimes significantly. But I love Tanzania and will continue to go back.

I would advise you to talk to the operator as there are all sorts of fees in TZ apart from the govt. lic and it differs from place to place.

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Originally posted by Singleshot03:
Hello Can anyone share with me the cost of a 10, 14 and 21 day Hunting license in Tanzania?

Thank you,

Jim

Why worry about a single item of the hunt?

Hunting a wild area in Tanzania entails all sorts of government costs, as well as the PH having to logistically provide everything needed for you and the camp.

It is not easy, and it is not cheap.

But if you can afford it, it is well worth it.

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Originally posted by Singleshot03:
Hello Can anyone share with me the cost of a 10, 14 and 21 day Hunting license in Tanzania?

Thank you,

Jim

Hunting Permit costs for 2021 as I know, but may have slight variations from outfitter to outfitter:

10 days - $1,500
12 days - $1,500
14 days - $4,500
16 days - $4,500
21 days - $4,500

or the more attractive Package deals:

Regular Safari Package @ $1,500
Major ................ @ $3,000
Premium .............. @ $4,500

I understand there are a lot of government costs and conservation charges.... So I have been looking at packages in the Maisai area. So I look at a 10 day hunt for plans game and a buffalo it cost $x plus trophy fees. Now if I want to add a lesser kudu and a 21 day license the cost seem to almost double plus trophy fees.

So that is why I was trying to understand the cost.

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Originally posted by Singleshot03:
I understand there are a lot of government costs and conservation charges.... So I have been looking at packages in the Maasai area. So I look at a 10 day hunt for plans game and a buffalo it cost $x plus trophy fees. Now if I want to add a lesser kudu and a 21 day license the cost seem to almost double plus trophy fees.

So that is why I was trying to understand the cost.

You initially requested to know the cost of the hunting license but now appears you are looking for an entire quote to include the Lesser Kudu which falls into the 21 day "full bag" category and yes, the Govt. Royalties which include the respective Conservation, dipping & packing, firearm permit charges can amount to anything between $5,500 for a 10 day to $13,500 for a 21 day license, irrespective of the actual days you will be on the ground hunting.

The only persons who could provide a "tailored" quote for a safari of your interest are the outfitters operating concessions in Masailand.

As I mentioned earlier, decide what you want, and discuss it with those who provide it.

Trying to pick and choose from different packages won't work.

A few years ago we had a client who wanted to hunt Namibia.

He had a great idea, but non of the outfitters would listen.

Basically he gathered the prices of several outfitters, and their trophy fees.

Each had different prices for different animals.

Our friend was trying to get everyone to agree to give him the cheapest price advertised for each animal by different outfitters.

I could not see any logic in that, but obviously he did.

In Tanzania, if you wish to hunt one of the animals only available on the 21 day license, prices will go up, as the outfitter does not get as many of these on his quota.

Related to Saeed's point below. In order to get a lesser kudu on license, you have to buy a 21 day license, even if you don't hunt 21 days. While the license cost is almost nothing, no outfitter is going to let you hunt 10 days on a 21 day license.
If you are a repeat customer, you might get away with 14-16 days.

I dont care what country it is I want to know all cost going in. Seems odd anyone would have a problem with a fellow hunter who may not have as deep of pockets know what they are paying for. I hope to be able to hunt there one day and I will find out what I am paying for that is for sure

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Originally posted by bcap:
I dont care what country it is I want to know all cost going in. Seems odd anyone would have a problem with a fellow hunter who may not have as deep of pockets know what they are paying for. I hope to be able to hunt there one day and I will find out what I am paying for that is for sure

Actually, the only cost a hunter should be considering is what he will pay.

When you go a restaurant, do you ask how much the potatoes, the tomatoes, the lettuce, salt and pepper cost.

The meat from the butcher?

PHs are running a business to make a living.

They would like to sell all their quotas every year.

In Tanzania they have to pay for 40% of their quota, whether they sell it or not.

No disrespect but Tanzania is probably not the place to hunt on a budget.

Good luck on your future hunts.

Jeff

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Originally posted by Saeed:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bcap:
I dont care what country it is I want to know all cost going in. Seems odd anyone would have a problem with a fellow hunter who may not have as deep of pockets know what they are paying for. I hope to be able to hunt there one day and I will find out what I am paying for that is for sure

No I dont ask because they come with the meal. A hunt that is based on fees that you pick what you want. Be it a 10 or 14 even 21 day license then trophy fees after that. It simple really each has a cost a hunter pays and knowing that is the right thing to do.

As far as budget that is all up to what each person wants to pay and ok with. If I can afford it I will go if not I will go some place else but nothing wrong with knowing as much as I can up front

bcap:

It's pretty simple really. If you want the premium animals, you'll have to buy a 21 day license. That's not a big expense in the grand scheme of things. What you'll have to negotiate is how many days the outfitter will require you to hunt on a 21 day license. They may require 21 days, or maybe you can negotiate 15 or 16. But then you have the daily fees and the trophy fees on the animals you take. All easy to calculate, but be aware that the trophy fees on the most desired animals can be significant. You'll get a list, but it's not like going shopping. You'll have to decide whether to take a good animal that's not on your list or hold out for something on your list that you might not get a chance at. But those fees are a whole lot more than the license fees.

And be aware that you will have several calls after you finish wanting either $500 or $1,000 for dip and pack, shipping, clearing customs, etc. It's always either $500 or $1,000. Not sure why and not counting taxidermy. Those are not within the control of your outfitter.

It's the way it is. And hopefully the Tanzanian government doesn't change the rules between the time you book and when you go. They've done that before.

I still love hunting in Tanzania, but you have to be a bit fluid.

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Originally posted by jeff h:
No disrespect but Tanzania is probably not the place to hunt on a budget.

Good luck on your future hunts.

Jeff

True.

Still the best in Africa though.

You are hunting wild areas.

The incredible amount of different species.

Nothing compares to it.

Budget and knowing what things cost are to different things. I know the cost of hunting have done alot of it in my life.

I dont need to know what my food or ph will cost those are all in my day rate. Wanting to be told the truth on license cost trophy fees and such should not be that hard to get really.

I which people would stop acting like hunting were you pay is not the same as any other business you may use in your life. All because it is something you enjoy it is still a service and product you buy in the end.

As a client, you have absolutely no control on what is being charged.

You can negotiate the final price, but trying to break all costs down is not very practical, and I don’t think many outfits will tell you either.

There are government costs, which are not negotiable.

The outfitter works his mark up according to the licenses he sells, the cost of running his camp - which can be very high, depending where it is situated.

The number of crew he has to employ, etc.

One can decide what he wishes to hunt, then ask different outfits what prices they can offer.

And takes the one that meets his requirements.

Tanzania is my favorite place to hunt. Hunted there this year and I'm trying to decide whether to go back next year or wait to 2023. From a personal standpoint, I'd like to push it off a year, as it's hard for me to take time off, but due to politics and the possible reassignment of concessions, I'll probably go.

Not the most affordable destination, but as Saeed said, it's still wild and a great destination.

I do kind of get both sides.

I’ve been offered contracts where they state the license is extra to the hunt, and then find what they quote the license costs and what the government actually charges to be very different.

One time I was told trophy fees are charged by the government… but you could find the government’s fee scale and everything was double or more. Not just Tanzania.

Heck in Tanzania, the concession change fee is often way more than a 21 day license costs…which I’ve never understood.

It is somewhat about honesty.

Nothing dishonest as long as the client is told what it will cost. IMHO. What I don't like is the government changing the rules after safaris are booked. Nothing the outfitter can control though.

Basic fact is PHs are in it to make a living.

They have to charge more than they pay the government, or they do not make any profit.

As I mentioned above, trying to nitpick what the costs are and what you are being charged is totally wrong.

Government fees and trophies fees are one thing.

The PH has to purchase the camp equipment, he has to transport it to remote areas - on roads that actually ARE deadly.

I know PHs who have died on these roads.

They have to maintain staff - for the whole season, not just for YOUR hunt.

They have to take down the camp at the end of the season, which entails more expenses for labor and transport.

They have to pay for storage of it for the off season.

Imagine going to a car dealership to buy a car.

You start asking what does the parts cost, as they are supplied by different factories.

You start asking the taxes paid in different countries.

You start asking the salaries of the labor force.

It becomes just plain silly.

Look at the price, try to negotiate, if you like it, buy it.

You don't like it, don't.

I still think hunting in Tanzania is a bargain!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Basic fact is PHs are in it to make a living.

They have to charge more than they pay the government, or they do not make any profit.

As I mentioned above, trying to nitpick what the costs are and what you are being charged is totally wrong.

Government fees and trophies fees are one thing.

The PH has to purchase the camp equipment, he has to transport it to remote areas - on roads that actually ARE deadly.

I know PHs who have died on these roads.

They have to maintain staff - for the whole season, not just for YOUR hunt.

They have to take down the camp at the end of the season, which entails more expenses for labor and transport.

They have to pay for storage of it for the off season.

Imagine going to a car dealership to buy a car.

You start asking what does the parts cost, as they are supplied by different factories.

You start asking the taxes paid in different countries.

You start asking the salaries of the labor force.

It becomes just plain silly.

Look at the price, try to negotiate, if you like it, buy it.

You don't like it, don't.

I still think hunting in Tanzania is a bargain!

I understand the costs we don’t see, but I think it is wrong to add the surcharge to the government fees. Disclosing a convenience charge/fee is ok, if disclosed. There are many other ways to cover costs.

That being said, it is all out there and research is key. It’s like the CAR charter costs in the other thread.

Agree with Saeed on this one. To me Tanzania is a bargain. I like hunting buffalo and there are four on ticket some places.

We have businesses that offer goods and services.

If any prospective client comes along and ask us what are costs are, I will tell him to take a hike!

We have prices for these goods and services, he can negotiate, but trying to see where we are making our profits is non of his business.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
We have businesses that offer goods and services.

If any prospective client comes along and ask us what are costs are, I will tell him to take a hike!

We have prices for these goods and services, he can negotiate, but trying to see where we are making our profits is non of his business.

Not sure why you keep acting like some are asking for such a detail break down. I am asking for the break down on things I think is fair to know about. I dont care what they pay for the food pay there ph's that kind of thing.

They have there day rate you pay it or dont hunt. they have there other cost that you as a hunter buys for your trip alone. I want to know what my tags cost or trophy fees will be. If I know going in and then the gov. increases fees I would pay the difference. But it is not ok in my eyes to make money on licenses and such when they make money on all the rest. They need to make more add money to the day rate.

It funny how so many make it like guys dont make money as Ph's or outfitters. Reminds me of when elephant hunts sold for 50,000.00 or more and all you heard was we are barely making a living. Then comes along the stupid import ban and hunt prices crash to 10.000.00 or 15,000.00 but same places still around and selling elephant hunts. Being blind to prices because you like to do something is just stupid in my eyes.

But it the end it all comes down to what each wants to pay and some of us just like to know more about what we pay for and not stop anyone from making a living

The only thing that matters to me is the bottom line. If the PH marks up the license or charges $500 to take the trophies to a taxidermist or charges $1200 for a road transfer it doesn't matter to me as long as the total bill is what I was expecting.

The PHs need to make a profit and if I had a good hunt, I want the PH to make a profit and stay in business.

Micro-managing someone elses business is waste of my time.

Many years ago I sent out my requirements for hunting to a number of outfits I thought of hunting with.

Got answers, and decided to go with someone I felt more comfortable with.

Not necessarily the cheapest.

Made the right decision, and had a great hunt.

I am lucky to hunt with people I have known for many years.

I don’t ask for a price, as I KNOW I will get the best deal.

The simple fact of dealing with people you know very well, whose interest is tied to yours, makes life so much easier.

No contract to sign.

No demands for advance payments.

A bill is sent, and normally gets paid the next day.

One sleeps well dealing this way.

[quote]I am lucky to hunt with people I have known for many years.

No contract to sign.

No demands for advance payments.

A bill is sent, and normally gets paid the next day.[quote]

Commonly known as dealing with "Old School" outfitters, who are now a dying breed.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Many years ago I sent out my requirements for hunting to a number of outfits I thought of hunting with.

Got answers, and decided to go with someone I felt more comfortable with.

Not necessarily the cheapest.

Made the right decision, and had a great hunt.

I am lucky to hunt with people I have known for many years.

I don’t ask for a price, as I KNOW I will get the best deal.

The simple fact of dealing with people you know very well, whose interest is tied to yours, makes life so much easier.

No contract to sign.

No demands for advance payments.

A bill is sent, and normally gets paid the next day.

One sleeps well dealing this way.

Totally agree have never signed a contract to hunt or paid a deposit before I hunted in africa even when going for the first time to a place. But I do talk and work out pricing before hand and have never had a problem and have never not been asked when I am coming back to hunt.

I dont ask for alot and dont want 5 star when I am paying for 3 star. I am fair and want to be treated fair.

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I dont ask for alot and dont want 5 star when I am paying for 3 star. I am fair and want to be treated fair.

The answer may be found if dealing with "old hands" or the "new generation" of outfitters?

The long established and outfitters of high repute did not gain their distinctions by skimming their clients.

I don't complain about the prices in Tanzania. No one forces anyone else to hunt there.

Pricing is usually relative to quality in the hunting world, all else being equal. So, one should compare price vs. quality for any safari. Simple as that. Tanzania wins that comparison in most cases.

Of course, one must be able to afford the quality offerred.

But I do complain when the government changes the rules, without prior notice, in the middle of the season, or sometimes, in the middle of a safari!

Tanzania has done that many times, and there is no excuse for it.

Agree with all the experienced hands on Tanzania. Michael, you're right; I've experienced the price changes and they are frustrating. Fulvio and Saeed, agree as well. I like the old line outfitters and that's who I hunt with. Given history with them, I can settle up afterwards. I know that's not the norm. Just got my final bill today for this year.

I generally send a projection of trophy fees in advance, but if we have a very successful safari, which has usually been the case, I owe money on the back end, as was the case this year. But I also noticed that they forgot to charge the tip sheet for the staff, so off to the bank tomorrow for a wire.

The problem is you can only carry $10,000 in cash and that's not generally enough for other transactions and staff and PH tips. So I project the staff tips and trophy fees and send it in advance. I underestimated this year.

The quotes you get from the outfitters are what they the outfitters are charging, so depending on their mark up is what you pay,but you can shop for those costs..Actual cost is usually somewhat below those quotes, but cost of operation getting the licenses may be worth the mark up...

The Tanzania Govt is the bitch in the hunt game, greedy and don't give a fat rats ass is the attitude..Every thing they do is because they can, and whatever they do changes their life not one bit, they can live on $300 a month or half a million a year, its a different mind set!

When booking a hunt, none of this business has squat to do with a successful hunt, shop around, check them out, take the best price and the best PH is about all you can do, the wheres and whyfores are just worthless curiosity. Just my two bits but I was in the business for many years..

Lavaca,
Clients used to use bank checks that could be purchased from their bank, money orders of sort that were as good as cash, and I can't recall the name off hand of those checks.. I always carried $10,000 cash and another $5000 in those checks, if for no other reason than to get out of dodge if a civil war erupted I could charter a flight to the nearest safe spot..Later some refused them, I don't know how it works now since my retirement. I would think some of the better Safari companies would accept Credit Cards..At one time I had a bank account in Dar Es Salamm, and I could use bank transfers for cash needed..Carrying $10,000 in Africa should be exciting at least..Interesting problem, but it always has been, I had it worked out and carried very large amounts of money to pay the PHs, but times changed before long and I used the banks in certain countries to do business..It gets more difficult every year..

Ray,

Agree. I've never been comfortable carrying that amount of cash. It's more than most folks over there earn in I don't know how long. I'm sure some would happily knock you in the head for it. I have a butt ugly travel jacket with a lot of internal, zippered pockets and I split it up and then keep it locked in the guncase in camp. Of course, that wouldn't prevent someone from walking away with the guncase.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Lavaca,
Clients used to use bank checks that could be purchased from their bank, money orders of sort that were as good as cash, and I can't recall the name off hand of those checks.

They were known as Traveller's Cheques.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Lavaca,
Clients used to use bank checks that could be purchased from their bank, money orders of sort that were as good as cash, and I can't recall the name off hand of those checks.

They were known as Traveller's Cheques.

I know of an occasion where the crooked client reported his travellers cheques stolen!

The same ones he had used to pay for his safari.

He got home before the cheques were cashed.

There is nothing to beat good old gentleman's agreement.

What we should do is name and shame the crooks.

Whether clients - and there plenty of them - or PHs.

Black list the bastards!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Lavaca,
Clients used to use bank checks that could be purchased from their bank, money orders of sort that were as good as cash, and I can't recall the name off hand of those checks.

They were known as Traveller's Cheques.

I know of an occasion where the crooked client reported his travellers cheques stolen!

The same ones he had used to pay for his safari.

He got home before the cheques were cashed.

There is nothing to beat good old gentleman's agreement.

What we should do is name and shame the crooks.

Whether clients - and there plenty of them - or PHs.

Black list the bastards!

One of AR’s claims to infamy is that the crooked client is a member here and still posts as if nothing happened.