Steel belted radial, all season, Z-rated, all continent, all holiday, seven days per week shooting sticks.

It is about shooting sticks for girls!

The palm of the hand MUST grip the forend firmly.

The back of the hand must control the sticks too.

No two ways about it MR.

I don't know where you got the supposed Boddington quote, selectively lifted, but here is what I have selected from the article by Boddington you linked:

Regarding bipod versus tripod stcks, Craig wrote:

"I don't personally have a preference because this is one of the tricky parts: You must not rest your fore-end (and certainly not your barrel) directly on the sticks. Instead, you place your supporting hand on the intersection, grasping both the sticks and the rifle ... pulling back on the sticks with your supporting hand, sort of like isometric pressure."

That is just typical muddled prose from Craig. He is trying to describe the RIP Deathstix grip. Time is money for Craig. He was ripping off another quickie for the rags. If he would be a little more careful, he would clarify, but get fewer pennies per second of writing time.

The palm grasps the rifle. The back of the hand controls the sticks.

See how Craig does it himself? Got any pictures of him shooting from sticks like a girl?

Weak, RIP, very weak.

But persist in this strange effort if you must.

I am tuckered out.

MR,
I added some more.
Strong. Read it and weep.
Or just say "uncle" and move on.

quote:

Originally posted by RIP:
It is about shooting sticks for girls!

The palm of the hand MUST grip the forend firmly.

The back of the hand must control the sticks too.

No two ways about it MR.

I don't know where you got the supposed Boddington quote, selectively lifted, but here is what I have selected from the article by Boddington you linked:

Regarding bipod versus tripod stcks, Craig wrote:

"I don't personally have a preference because this is one of the tricky parts: You must not rest your fore-end (and certainly not your barrel) directly on the sticks. Instead, you place your supporting hand on the intersection, grasping both the sticks and the rifle ... pulling back on the sticks with your supporting hand, sort of like isometric pressure."

That is just typical muddled prose from Craig. He is trying to describe the RIP Deathstix grip. Time is money for Craig. He was ripping off another quickie for the rags. If he would be a little more careful, he would clarify, but get fewer pennies per second of writing time.

The palm grasps the rifle. The back of the hand controls the sticks.

See how Craig does it himself? Got any pictures of him shooting from sticks like a girl?

quote:

Originally posted by RIP:
Craig Boddington uses the RIP Deathstix grip:

Craig does better with nonverbal communication, showing by example the proper technique. The above picture shows what he was trying to say in words: proper technique.

Craig is a man of action, not much of a wordsmith.

By golly a new wrinkle:

Craig is grasping one of the stick ends between his third and fourth finger, but all the fingers are curling around the forend of the rifle.

Sort of like he is holding the sides of a stogie or cigarette between his fingers.

Just a little pinch of one stick between the knuckles of two fingers while all the fingers grasp the rifle and the back of the hand rests in the crotch of the sticks.

So that is what Craig was trying to say!

Perfect cigarette/cigar/Deathstix grip! Get it?

I have learned another minor variation. Of the Deathstix Grip.

This is not for girls, who should use the MR technique and settle for hat-sized groups at close range.

Real men shoot like Rip and Craig, from sticks, but only when they can't get it done with a quick offhand cap snap.

quote:

Originally posted by RIP:

DEATHSTIX

RIP Stogie Grip:




Boddington Cigarette Grip:

I see that MR has surrendered, without an "uncle."

quote:

Originally posted by RIP:
By golly a new wrinkle:

Craig is grasping one of the stick ends between his third and fourth finger, but all the fingers are curling around the forend of the rifle.

Sort of like he is holding the sides of a stogie or cigarette between his fingers.

Just a little pinch of one stick between the knuckles of two fingers while all the fingers grasp the rifle and the back of the hand rests in the crotch of the sticks.

So that is what Craig was trying to say!

Perfect cigarette/cigar/Deathstix grip! Get it?

I have learned another minor variation. Of the Deathstix Grip.

This is not for girls, who should use the MR technique and settle for hat-sized groups at close range.

Real men shoot like Rip and Craig, from sticks, but only when they can't get it done with a quick offhand cap snap.

BTT

Anyone else think MR shoots like a girl?

Do not be misled by charlatans who shoot from the sticks like girls.

Do it right, like RIP and the VIP.

No offence intended, RIP, but I have read somewhere that posting more than three times consecutively on the same thread means you are probably talking to yourself, or worse, just responding to voices in your head. 6 in a row...you've got me worried.

FWIW, however, I too ascribe to the method you use on the stix. I don't grasp the stix in any way (a la CTB) however, I just use them to prop up my hand.

Cheers,
Canuck

quote:

Originally posted by Canuck:
No offence intended, RIP, but I have read somewhere that posting more than three times consecutively on the same thread means you are probably talking to yourself, or worse, just responding to voices in your head. 6 in a row...you've got me worried.

FWIW, however, I too ascribe to the method you use on the stix. I don't grasp the stix in any way (a la CTB) however, I just use them to prop up my hand.

Cheers,
Canuck

Canuck,
This thread needs to live forever. You too are doing it right.

Newcomers to the stix will need a reference.
It is here.

I will hammer this point forever, even if i am hammering alone.


The opposition was quashed, squished, squashed.


BTT

RIP,

You are in rare form my good man. Methinks we need Ray back to give you a proper foil...

Brett

quote:

Originally posted by Brett:
RIP,

You are in rare form my good man. Methinks we need Ray back to give you a proper foil...

Brett

Brett, you are too kind. Thanks for helping me keep this educational thread alive.

MR shows how not to do it, and others of us confirm the proper way to do it: Deathstix.

Sorry, RIP. Although I am still tuckered out, I must point out that you, on the other hand, are still hopelessly, irretrievably, self-deludedly and wrongheadedly wrong.

You are wrong in form and substance, and you are wrong in method. Your dogmatical pedagogy is wrong as well. Your certitude is not the test of certainty, nor is your vehemence the test of validity. You are pretty much just flat out wrong on every level and measure of wrongness.

And the voices in your head are also wrong.

In point of fact, your method is slow and unsteady (and potentially painful), compared to mine (and CB's), which is fast and rock solid.

But if you like your method, please keep on keeping on. Post away.

Everyone on the board knows that you can do better than six unanswered posts in a row.

We have seen you do it many times before.

MR,

My God man, your responses are altogether too well reasoned tactful and witty. They are even spelled correctly!!! Where is the visceral diatribe, the character attacks, the swearing, the offers of fisticuffs (sic) the best of the “old†AR?

RIP is trying here, let’s step it up bit shall we?

Brett

quote:

Originally posted by mrlexma:
Sorry, RIP. Although I am still tuckered out, I must point out that you, on the other hand, are still hopelessly, irretrievably, self-deludedly and wrongheadedly wrong.

You are wrong in form and substance, and you are wrong in method. Your dogmatical pedagogy is wrong as well. Your certitude is not the test of certainty, nor is your vehemence the test of validity. You are pretty much just flat out wrong on every level and measure of wrongness.

And the voices in your head are also wrong.

In point of fact, your method is slow and unsteady (and potentially painful), compared to mine (and CB's), which is fast and rock solid.

But if you like your method, please keep on keeping on. Post away.

Everyone on the board knows that you can do better than six unanswered posts in a row.

We have seen you do it many times before.

Way out of touch with reality there, MR. Better get back on your medicine.

The right way, demonstrated by Rip and Craig Boddington (caught in the act, not just faulty prose):

quote:

Originally posted by RIP:
DEATHSTIX

RIP Stogie Grip:



Boddington Cigarette Grip:

That's just WRONG.

She may be cute,but she shoots like MR, not like her Daddy.

This makes 5 posts in a row. I'll let my record of six stand ... for now.

This is my sixth in a row, again:

We cannot end the string with MR and Ms. Boddington showing the wrong way.

Review the responses here, the ones excluding MR and my own, and you will see that any serious consideration of this, from noncomedians, supports this:

If you shoot a .22 rimfire or don't mind a heavy kicker going into a hat-sized group at 25 yards, then use the MR/Ms. Boddington technique.

If you shoot a 6.75 pound bare-weight .375 H&H, like RIP, or a .470 NE double, like VIP is pictured with, or any rifle suitable for big game, and you want to make one-shot kills off the shooting sticks, you should be using the Deathstix Technique.

Good grief! MR is prevaricating about it being slow and clumsy! Clumsy! Sheesh! Precision rock-steady aiming is not clumsy!

He is also prevaricating about CB recommending the MR technique. He most certainly does not! My quote of CB says what CB recommends. The picture of CB's daughter posing MR-style is not an illustration of the technique recommended by Craig Boddington. That picture is just cheesecake! Irrelevant to the recommended technique by CB.

The Deathstix have never drawn blood from my hand, just from the animal.

Possibly MR may be too delicate to put the back of his hand on the sticks, but for him there is the glove. He can even wear one on his trigger hand too, if he fears for it.

Set up the stix and use them to steady your hand.

It is simple, quick, easy, and the exact opposite of "clumsy."

quote:

Originally posted by RIP:
The right way, demonstrated by Rip and Craig Boddington (caught in the act, not just faulty prose):

quote:

Originally posted by RIP:
DEATHSTIX

RIP Stogie Grip:



Boddington Cigarette Grip: