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Here is a thought that a few of my friends had a few years ago. Instead of saving for years and years to take that trip to the dark continent and shoot a cape buffalo, ponder this for a minute. Imagine a two and a half ton pissed off holstien bull. Now the trick is creating a very nasty disposition for this animal. Here is how one does that. Pen the animal and shoot it in the nuts every day with a pellet gun, 3 pumps should be plenty. Put on a blaze orange coat and then plink plink, every day for a year. Imagine how pissed you would be getting shot in the nuts every day for a year!! How as for the hunt. Put the hunter in a forest in the spring to give the bull a fair chance, nice cover for both hunter and game. Put the hunter in blaze orange and turn them both lose. For the really brave, the hunter can use a bow and arrow for this hunt. Let the games begin. Bet you won't be any more scared from a cape buffalo as you will from a full grown holstien bull!! Let me know if you think this can work. | ||
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Heh, heh, I'm interested. What are you charging for this hunt? Can I keep the meat for that price? | |||
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dude, you have wayyyyy too much time on your hands! hahaha | |||
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Never mind torturing the beast- I was hunting in Alberta once when I came across some free-range cattle. Happened on a large bull or cow (didn't care at the time- it was huge) protecting it's turf. We had a stand-down at 20 yards and I felt very undergunned with my 300 WSM and 180gr. bullets. If that thing charged, there would be an equal chance of one of us being badly wounded!! It looked like it weighed over 1,200 pounds! I agree though, the post is a bit unusual | |||
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Even better shoot the client hunter and the "outfitter" in the nuts every day for a year with a pellet gun. So they hobble and can't walk. Then throw him into the bull and yard and sell tickets for spectactors to watch. I know who I'd be cheering for, and that's the bull. Much greater fun. (PS What a stupid post) | |||
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I'm in tears laughing.....Obviously the Packers are not in the superbowl this year. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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This is pretty bad boys. Sub a Jersey or Guernsey bull for the Holstein and you won't have to shoot it in the nether regions to get it to charge. Just happen to have connections where you can buy one if you want to commit suicide. Suicide, that's passing a big truck on the opposite of the left side. Pancho LTC, USA, RET "Participating in a gun buy-back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids." Clint Eastwood Give me Liberty or give me Corona. | |||
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To add to my previous post. I actually like bulls. Miss the days when we used to run cattle and I had to run away from mean and nasty charging bulls. (Pancho - yes we had some Jersey/Friesen cross-breeds and I loved watching our bulls charge the handlers at the sale yards) If someone actually wants to hunt scrub bull it is a great hunt and doesn't need the stupid cruelty jokingly suggested in this thread. | |||
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I don't know why y'all are hung up on milk cattle especially Holsteins which are easy to see with their white markings. Why not use angus, beefmaster, or some dark beef cattle cross for this experiment? When mine get into the woods and I have to root them out they sometimes turn up at 10 yards before I see them, much more sporting. | |||
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Fellas I'm not a Texican, but from what I've read that a Texas Longhorn, of either sex has the disposition of Hillary Clinton, but prettier. Jim "Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Going after a wounded range bull aint no joke. I had to put one down several years ago and it took a lot of doing. Especially since the rancher had already tried with his 30/30 and just managed to hurt the bull really well. In that situation good old Mr. Bovine was as dangerous and pissed off as any critter can get. William Berger True courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway. - John Wayne The courageous may not live forever, but the timid do not live at all. | |||
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quote: Man!!! this thread has gone down hill in a hurry!!!! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Obviously all of you guys have never seen what a large holstien bull can do to a 3/4 ton truck. The beefmaster isn't a bad idea either. They look like a 3/4 ton truck walking across a field. I think Lewis and M1Tanker are seeing the point of this thread. As far as being unusual, um have you guys read some of the posts on here? I think I have come up with a valid alternative to a cape buffalo hunt. Don't have to get pissy about it. | |||
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Packerbacker, don't get upset, any mention of cruelty simply turns some off of any joke, no matter how it is meant! If you want some real mean cattle try some of the wild Spanish cattle along the Rio Grande's canyon lands. These animals have been wild since the conquistadors, and are the same as the fighting bulls used in the rings. They do not like people, and are willing to protect their little patch of sea cane! Still these are far and away inferior to a cape buffalo, and if six of them were put into a pen with a horney cape buffalo bull,and a "HOT" cow, the cape would kill them all! I was born 68 yrs ago on a North Texas hill country cattle ranch, and have delt with every kind of cattle known to man, and though tough, none can come close to a cape buffalo, when it comes to attitude, or tanasity of life! By the way, Welcome to AR! ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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As a retired cowboy, and a African hunter of some experience, it has been pressed upon me by this ridiculas thread to enlighten you poor mislead and ignorant souls.. A Holstein, Longhorn, or Beefmaster is nothing more than some old cows calf that was raised on sweet milk and colostrum, I have owned Longhorns and Beefmasters, never lowered my self to a dairy breed, its not the cowboy way you see... a Cape Buffalo on the other hand came about by his sire ejaculating on a rock, while Lions feasted on his hindquarters, and the sun hatched out the off spring, and from that day fourth he wakes up every 15 minutes from a 10 minute nap pissed off and his disposition digresses from that point on during a normal day..If you shoot him in the nuts with your silly pellet gun, he will simply stratch his balls and continue to feed, all the time looking for that hunter who molested his sister...He be a whole nuther kind of cow. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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How about we shoot Hillary in the nuts........JJ " venator ferae bestiae et aquae vitae " | |||
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What a good time. This forum rocks. My whole purpose of this thread was to create a hunt that is affordable for the average hunter. A person could use old bull studs from the breeder's associations. That will keep costs down. Could tape some cape buffalo horns to its head and bring the big city boys up and let them have a crack at it. They won't know any better. I bet we could even get some goofballs from Nebraska to do the same hunt. | |||
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quote: Sounds to me like you need a good asswhoompin. | |||
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quote: In years of dealing with both beef and dairy, a good axe handle or a good border collie takes care of business. Although I have never BTDT re Cape Buff, something tells me they might take more The nastiest bull I ever had to deal with was a dairy bull, in the corral, just moved in, had no cow around. Took a pitchfork plus the border collie. He later caught someone without the dog handy, and was turned into a laaaaarge quantity of bologna as a penalty. A large sow with newborn will make a true believer out of you, if you get caught off guard. Sacred cows make the best burgers. Good Shooting! | |||
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How about someone with excellent financial backing bringing over a breeding herd of Cape Buffalo and opening a "ranch" with free-ranging Buff? You'd need a lot of land but it would be busy!! | |||
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All our domestic cattle are descended from the original European wild cattle called the aurochs. They stood six foot at the shoulder and sported 3 foot horns, facing forward, not sideways. They went extinct in the wild by 1697 but before WWII, German biologists at both the Munich and Berlin zoos back bred "primitive" cattle breeds and recreated the beast. Some of the Munich strain survived the war and are shown in zoos. However, some others were released into the wild in Poland and there seem to be a number of private estates in Europe where they live free. On occasions, according to John Brandt's Horned Giants, suplus bulls become available for hunters . . . assuming that you can make the correct connections! Maybe we could import some frozen sperm and start our own program? Any cowboys interested? Sarge Holland's .375: One Planet, One Rifle . . . for one hundred years! | |||
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quote:sensitivity 101, the reason Aussies USED to be men. square shooter | |||
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quote: Ha ha, what is this sensitivity stuff! Real men carry a club and drag their woman off by the hair. . | |||
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