I firmly believe in following the advice of one's PH, they're the expert and in some occasions their advice can save your life...my dilemma is that I want to shoot a hyena or 2 by using a call (foxpro hyena or animal- in -distress sounds) I realize electronic calls are not legal in all countries and also some non-target dangerous critters may respond to a prey-distress-call...The issue is that many of the PH's I've talked with prefer (or insist) to bait using a blind/hide for hyena...I know I may be missing great opportunities, but sitting in a blind isn't for me, I don't really even like treestand hunting for whitetails (a Pennsylvania religion!) Advice?

Buy a leopard tag. you will probably get one in your lap blowing a predator call.

1. If it's not legal in a particular country, go to a country where it is legal.

2. If you don't want to sit in a blind, then don't.

Personally, I don't see what the dilemma is.

At least you're smart enough, unlike me at some previous times, to ask the appropriate questions to find the lay of the land, as it were, before you go.

Just a thought, if sitting quietly in the blind doesn't sound good to you then why couldn't you try using the call while in the blind with the PH there, see what happens and go from there.

Grumulkin, my dilemma is I don't want to piss off my PH by using a hunting method he dislikes...

Do a little research with various PH's. Usually your green money cures any dislike they have for your hunt methods.

You are the client, the outfitter should be upfront if they can do this or not. The only thing to remember is they are the local expert, you may be able to do it your way but you may also go home empty handed.

Not just Hyena's show up for animal in distress noises..

get a 300lb Lioness in your lap.. Things might get a bit dicey..

Is hyena the only species you are going to be hunting?

Try Mark butcher. Matupula safaris. 00263965026
Been with him doing that and he loves it. he has got the fox pro and works beautifully. Tell him to tell you the story of a lioness coming in to the call.
Diego romero

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Originally posted by buckeyeshooter:
Buy a leopard tag.

You will have hyenas all over if you have a leopard tag, thats a fact

I have called in and killed a few hyeanas and its really cool hunt and effective !

joester,

This is your safari so I would expect your PH unless he thinks that it is unusually dangereous to at least give you an opportunity to try calling. PH's tend to follow traditional hunting methods that produce success and happy clients but if you want to try something unconventional go for it as long as it won't get you eaten.

Mark

I have called in hyena with Foxpro FX5 and mouth calls before, it is THE way to shoot one. When they start "talking" back, the hair on your arms will stand up, that is a promise. Spotted hyena is IMO the most under rated African animal to hunt, and this way is the most fun way to do it by a wide margin.

i did it a few years back - worked well, BUT, they coame in so quietly that we didn't know they were there until they were about 4-5 feet away. they ran off about 100 yds and just stayed there. you will probably need some sort of a blind to hide in, and it took quite awhile for them to come in (like 1/2 hr or so) Incidentally wetting your pants is not a scent attractant

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Originally posted by joester:
Grumulkin, my dilemma is I don't want to piss off my PH by using a hunting method he dislikes...

The PH should also be concerned about pissing you off by using a hunting method you don't like.

Since you have definite preferences on how to hunt, you need to discuss them with your prospective PH and if you can't come to some agreement, get a different PH.

Of course, if your method isn't legal in the country of your choice, I'd highly recommend going with the legal method.

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want to shoot a hyena or 2 by using a call (foxpro hyena or animal- in -distress sounds) I realize electronic calls are not legal in all countries and also some non-target dangerous critters may respond to a prey-distress-call...The issue is that many of the PH's I've talked with prefer (or insi

I shot my Cheetah using a fox-pro and it was awesome. We spotted them about 150-200 yards off and they came in over a matter of an hour or so with us catching periodic glimpses. It was a really neat way to hunt I thought. If I were doing it again in Namibia, as mentioned above, I would make sure I had a Leopard, Brown Hyena, and Cheetah tag under those circumstances. You never know what might come in! Also be sure to discuss with the PH/outfitter what the total cost will be if you shoot a leopard that comes in. If you are there on a $300 a day plains game hunt, he might not just be content with you shooting the leopard for only a $3500 trophy fee. Work it out in advance so you aren't bargaining with him in hushed whispers while the cat stands there looking at the electronic call sitting on a log!

On the Bubye Valley Conservancy in Zimbabwe, PH Brent Hein uses a CD of hyena calls played through loud-speakers from the roof of his cruiser at night and spotlights them as they come in. Lots of fun and really cool to hear them talking back!

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Originally posted by Karl S:
I have called in hyena with Foxpro FX5 and mouth calls before, it is THE way to shoot one. When they start "talking" back, the hair on your arms will stand up, that is a promise. Spotted hyena is IMO the most under rated African animal to hunt, and this way is the most fun way to do it by a wide margin.

Sweet! Fisi never has tempted me, but dang that sounds fun. Leave it to the Stumpfer!

Which Foxpro sounds work best for hyenas or leopards?

No one on this forum is a more dedicated caller than me, but it is a BAD idea in lion country.

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
No one on this forum is a more dedicated caller than me, but it is a BAD idea in lion country.

I don't doubt your experience in these matters, Dave, but would you feel the same way about using hyena pack sounds - as opposed to distressed animal sounds - to call in hyena in lion country? Not being an expert, I would think that would be auditory kryptonite for lions (and I'm told it's quite effective and exciting in bringing in hyena fast and furious.

Hyena have been my nemesis on two safaris, so I'm also quite interested in what might work on the next one.

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Originally posted by KPete:

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
No one on this forum is a more dedicated caller than me, but it is a BAD idea in lion country.

I don't doubt your experience in these matters, Dave, but would you feel the same way about using hyena pack sounds - as opposed to distressed animal sounds - to call in hyena in lion country? Not being an expert, I would think that would be auditory kryptonite for lions (and I'm told it's quite effective and exciting in bringing in hyena fast and furious.

Hyena have been my nemesis on two safaris, so I'm also quite interested in what might work on the next one.

Kim.

Not to beat Dave to the answer, but when I've ACCOMPANIED licensed PHs that were trying to shoot problem lions, the hyena sounds were thought to be one of the best calls for lions. This, I'm told, is because an opportunistic lion may hear the hyena "dinner music" and come to the call thinking he/she is going to steal a meal from the spotted dogs.

Also, in a baiting scenario, I know some PHs have had great success getting a lion to come back to his bait, almost on command, by playing the dinner music. Ol shumba thinks the dogs are eating the bait and he rocks up to give them the business. By the time he figures out that it was Memorex ....... Bang!